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Robert Stanley, UNICUS
UNICUS: I suspect there was an important moment, or moments,
of clarity that caused you to see beyond your research as the
editor of Illuminati News to the bigger picture regarding
humanity’s hidden history. What was it that inspired you to
devote so much time and energy to researching and writing theWes Penre Papersand exposing the Alien Agenda in
such dramatic detail?
PENRE: I posted the first articles on
the Illuminati-News.com web site in 1998. Since then, it's been
an amazing journey all the way up to now [July 2016]. And when I
look back, I am surprised to see how seamlessly one learning
lesson has led to another. I knew some about the ET situation
already when I began editing Illuminati News, and I dedicated a
section to that topic, but I was just in the beginning stages of
learning about the truly amazing complexity of what we're facing
with the ET issue.
To answer your question, the turning point came when I found two
essays online, co-written by Dr. A.R. Bordon, a retired quantum
physicist (now deceased), who together with a few other
scientists formed the "Life Physics Group California" to explore
and expose the ET issue—more specifically, the "Anunnaki issue."
I posted these two essays on my blog and they are still there.
One is named "The Link" and the other is named "Between the Devil
and the Returning Rock".
Shortly after publishing these two essays, I was contacted by
Dr. Bordon, who thanked me for posting them. He wanted them
distributed as broadly as possible, and I had a fair number of
visitors to my web site. Dr. Bordon and I began to communicate,
and I learned that he and his group of quantum scientists
apparently were in physical contact with some of the "Anunnaki,"
whom I most commonly call the "Alien Invader Force" (AIF) in my
papers andin my new book:
I learned a lot from my discussions with Dr. Bordon, and some of
it was used to create the "Wes Penre Papers—The First Level
This had a lot to do with the "Anunnaki issue," as Dr. Bordon
sometimes called it. I had read Zecharia Sitchin years before
that, but when I started digging deeper into ancient mythology,
I found a totally different story emerging than the one Sitchin
had given us in his "Earth Chronicle Series." Therefore, one
major catalyst that made me look deeper into this subject was my
discussions with Dr. Bordon. Our conversations inspired me to
begin to seriously research the "Anunnaki enigma."
The Second through Fifth Level of Learning
in my Papers are the results of my diving deeply into the
ancient texts that are available to us. I was analyzing and then
reanalyzing them and reaching some interesting conclusions. I
found that there are hidden stories within the stories, and that
the real connections could not be made until these subtle
stories, hidden in plain sight, were found. The ancient texts
were often dictated to a scribe by the "gods" themselves (the
AIF), so the AIF decided what was going to become our history
and what was to be excluded (and or altered). It's a trademark
of the gods that they want to hide the truth in plain sight (the
Global Elite do the same thing). You have to be willing to look
at what is really there below the surface, and not focus only on
what is obviously on the surface, in order to get a more
UNICUS: Well, I found that your fiveWes Penre Paperscontain
a comprehensive account of a very complex history of our
Creation and the corruption that took place after a civil war in
Orion began, and it is still going on. Your diligent research
helped me fill in some blank spots in my quest for answers,
which I am very grateful for. You have published an amazing
amount of research material on the Internet, which must have
taken a lot of time and effort, and it’s all free. Why is that?
WES PENRE: Since I was a little kid, I have always been very
curious about things that have to do with what we cannot see,
hear, touch, smell and taste. I "knew" that there was more to
existence than what I was experiencing here on Earth. From the
third to sixth grade, I often went to the library after school
and studied astronomy and other interesting topics. I could sit
for hours in the library just looking at pictures of planets,
stars, and galaxies and learn about their distance in
light-years, which Spectral Class certain stars were in,
according to the Hertzsprung-Russell Diagram, etc. I thought it
was mind-blowing, and perhaps most of all, I found the Universe
immensely beautiful and mysterious.
Throughout my life, I have almost always researched one thing or
another--things we never learned in school. When the Internet
came along, and I could afford my first personal computer in
1998, I saw the opportunity to share with others what I've
learned. This was something I had always wanted to do, but up to
that point hadn’t had the chance. I began to realize that what I
was looking into was very important--not only for me, but for
everybody. I couldn't just sit there with all that information
and not share it. Therefore, I created my first website, the
Illuminati News, and I went on from there. The more I learned,
the more passionate I became about sharing information and
Although it's very hard work (I've spent countless early
mornings doing research and writing before going to my regular
job), but when I see the response I get from my readers, it
really encourages me to keep doing this. I could probably make
some money out of this, which I perhaps would be entitled to
because I have been doing this without getting paid (in fact, it
costs me money to do it), but I can't justify charging for
information that should have been free in the first place if it
hadn't been covered up by the "authorities." Moreover, if I
decided to charge for it, fewer people would read it because not
everybody has the means to pay for things they read on the
Internet. I want everybody who has a connection to the Internet
to be able to read what I publish, whether they are rich or
I will probably continue doing this as long as my
body/mind/spirit hold up, and I anticipate that will be for many
years to come. But in order to do this, one has to have a
passion for it. Without that passion, you can’t work at this
pace for a very long time.
UNICUS: I know what you mean. I also know that no matter how
well you communicate what you learned about the Alien Agenda and
its effects on mankind, it's all a bit complicated for some
people to follow.
You once told me that there are actually only a small cast of
characters known by many different names. If possible, can you
summarize who's who in all this?
WES PENRE: There is no doubt that there were many different
"gods" here in ancient times. However, only a few are actually
mentioned and named in the old Hindu, Sumerian and Babylonian
scriptures, as well as the Egyptian, Roman and Greek records.
Their names (which are really often titles) are many, but when
we begin to research this, we realize that most of these names
correspond to the same few beings. And sometimes En.ki, Marduk,
and Ereshkigal hijacked the names of known leaders to otherwise
discredit the Queen of the Stars and King En.lil (Sr.), who have
little to do with the agenda that En.ki, Marduk, and Ereshkigal
set up here on Earth. Here are a few examples off the top of my
head to illustrate how a few beings share a number of different
Queen of the Stars, (En.ki's and Ninurta's mother and En.lil Senior’s
consort): a.k.a. Mother Goddess, Ninhursag, Nammu, Ma, Orion
Queen, Nin, Ninmah, Artemis, Sophia (Earth in the Gnostic
texts), Hera, Diana, Antu, Gaia (Earth).
King En.lil Sr., (En.ki's and Ninurta's stepfather): a.k.a. Anu/An,
Oceanus, Geb, Uranus, God of the Hunt (Orion).
Prince En.ki, (son of the Queen of Orion, brother of En.lil Jr.):
a.k.a. Ea, Sin, Nannar, Osiris, Ptah, Zeus, Thoth, Quetzalcoatl,
Loki, Ningishzidda, Nergal (King of the Underworld/Hell),
Poseidon, Neptune, Mercury, Oannes, Saturn (after the Invasion.
Saturn used to be Ninurta/Prince En.lil), Hermes, Krishna,
Marduk, (son of En.ki): a.k.a. Amon Ra, Zeus (sometimes),
Jupiter, Mars, Apollo, Shiva, Horus, AST-AR (Ashtar).
Prince En.lil Jr., (son of the Queen of Orion, brother of En.ki): a.k.a.
Ninurta, Saturn (before the Invasion).
The seven beings mentioned above are the only beings I've
encountered in the ancient texts that I've studied so far.
However, the names I have not mentioned here can in one way or
another be traced back to any of the above beings, as far as
UNICUS: Thank you for providing the names of some of the key
players in this cosmic passion play. My understanding is that in
the Annunaki empire, the more powerful/important a person is the
more names/titles they have (60 or more). Unfortunately, this
makes it difficult for people of earth to know who's who among
the “gods.” A simple example of this on earth is Hermes
Trismegistus (Thrice Great). He is called that because he was
given different names by three separate earth cultures:
It is a matter of public record that a minority of people on our
planet claim to have had contact with alien/ET entities. Some
people report being abducted and returned by these entities
relatively intact. However, based on the investigative research
and reporting of David Paulides (Missing 411), many people have vanished under
very strange circumstances without leaving any trace and they
are never seen or heard from again. During your years of
extensive research and analysis, have you found any information
re. alien abductions related to the Annunaki?
WES PENRE: In more recent time, it seems the abductions people
experience are conducted either by the Military or they are
joint abductions by the Military and the AIF/Anunnaki. Since the
founding of America, we are living in the New Atlantis, and at
least for the last 60 years, give or take, the Military is
behind most of the abductions of both humans and animals for
genetic experimentation/manipulation. Whistleblowers have told
us of horrific experiments going on in underground
facilities--not only here in the U.S., but all over the world
(and it extends to the underground bases on Mars, as well—Mars
being an ancient AIF genetic engineering center).
The Military has created clones, experimental creatures who
literally look like something "out of this world," artificial
intelligence, androids and much more. As I wrote extensively
about in my new book, the goal of the Military right now is to
fulfill the goal of “Singularity,” where humans become cyborgs
connected to a central Super Brain Computer (SBC). They also
want to create super soldiers—a cloned army, where the soldiers
are half machines/half humans—to be able to complete
"supernatural tasks" that our biological bodies and minds can't
accomplish in our current state.
Thus, there are many reasons behind the abductions. People who
come back have often been given screen memories of different
alien races that allegedly abducted them and harshly and
horrifically experimented on them without anesthesia, when it
could just as well have been branches of the Military—most
likely the Navy (not so much the Air Force, which would
otherwise seem more logical). However, on some occasions, there
HAVE been AIF abductions as well. There are certain soul
agreements made in the astral between human souls and the AIF
that in the next lifetime, a certain soul/mind/body complex
agrees to be abducted by the AIF themselves. This way, the AIF
can swear themselves free from guilt; after all, the human
"allowed" the abduction (although they probably won’t remember
it in their human incarnation). As I have reported extensively,
the manipulation of mankind by the AIF continues in the
The Military Industrial Complex (MIC) has the technology to
abduct people and make them vanish from the face of the Earth.
Many of them are taken off-planet and tampered with. It has been
reported that the latest abductions consist primarily of young
males of certain bloodlines that the AIF have monitored for
generations, and now the DNA and the sperms are being extracted
from selected members of these bloodlines (and the abductees
don’t necessarily have to be of the Illuminati genepools).
Witnesses have declared that people have disappeared into “thin
air” right in front of them, in a public area, never to be seen
again. I have encountered information claiming that the sperm of
these males is used to create a cloned army to fight space wars
both for the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) and the AIF. They
are secretly creating hybrid super soldiers to serve in the
ongoing galactic civil war that En.ki/Lucifer started and plans
to win with our help.
The AIF is not behind as many abductions as one would
think--they let humans take care of it for them. In the distant
past, abductions were more often done by the AIF. Also, people
need to realize that the AIF Overlords are the only alien
entities that are directly interfering with us and our planet at
this point, but they consist of different interdimensional
species working together. They often play the roles of the bad
and the good guys to keep polarity intact (polarity and
separation are basically what keep this 3-D hologram together),
and they often deceive us so that we think some of them are
benevolent toward us.
This group of ETs are probably deceiving 90% or more of the
so-called UFO research community. However, there are some
exceptions regarding other neutral ET entities that are highly
interdimensional beings, who observe at a "distance" what is
happening on Earth. They don't intervene, except on very rare
occasions, and when they do, they strictly follow the Law of
Free Will. I have found that there are no "good aliens" trying
to contact humanity at large to lead us toward Total Freedom. Be
particularly suspicious if you hear that ET technology is going
to help us live a better life or take us to the stars—that is
just more Overlord deception.
There are those seemingly working hard to have zero-point energy
released to the public, i.e. free energy and an "easy" way to
space travel that will take us to the stars (which stars… the
ones in En.ki's hologram?). This will ancient technology will
probably be released quite soon, but NOT because certain people
have been lobbying for it. It will become reality for us because
the Overlords need to release this information anyway, in order
to plan for their future agenda; it’s time for humanity to get
this information soon, but it's not for the good of humankind.
Our future is dictated by the AIF agenda, which is unknown to
most humans here on earth.
It bothers me when prominent people in the alternative field
tell us that all aliens are good and should be welcomed and
embraced. These people are either very naïve, or they know
exactly what they are doing, if you get the drift. It's all
deception, and the AIF plays both roles –the good cop and the
bad cop. This is their realm because they created the hologram
we live in, which is the physical universe we experience with
our 5 senses. Our real realm, our true home, is “outside”
En.ki’s illusionary empire… and it is called the KHAA or the
VOID. I would go so far as to argue that everything that is made
out of atoms is En.ki’s hologram and is therefore part of the
trap. The real Universe is the VOID (dark matter/energy) between
the atoms! The spiritual universe, which is us, and the
unlimited creations we are capable of manifesting, does not
consist of atoms, electrons, neutrons, and positrons, etc.
This is tough information to take in, but I would be a hypocrite
if I said anything different. This is the reality we all must
face, but it doesn't mean there are no soulutions. An immediate
thing an abductee can do is to energetically nullify any
previous agreements that might have been made with the AIF and
their subordinates. Because it's often difficult to know if the
abduction is Military or ET in nature (or both), I would take
the following action regardless, if I were an abductee (even if
it's the Military, in many cases they follow orders from the
Overlords and the high level Military is told whom to abduct.
However, this is not always the case).
Condition your personal space by first grounding yourself
thoroughly as described on this page:
Next, imagine a solid bubble around yourself and another one
around the house/apartment you live in. Then either say out loud
or think the following (it doesn't matter which, as long as the
intention is very clear and sincere):
"I cancel any and all agreements I may have with those who think
they have the right to abduct me. I don't allow anyone,
anywhere, at any time, to ever abduct me again. From here on, an
abduction of my person will be a direct violation of the Law of
An abductee may need to repeat this every night, and perhaps
even twice a day for some time, until the forces conducting the
abductions take the abductee seriously. They may, or may not
take that person again, but if the abductee continues to insist
on their right not to be abducted and experimented on, the
abductors will eventually take the abductee seriously and leave
them alone. But the abductee has to condition their personal
space as a part of their daily routine, with clear/focused
intention. It's not enough to just casually think it.
Once the abductions stop, it’s time to release the trauma. This
can often be done to a large extent when the abductee not only
forgives themselves for having made the agreement with their
abductors (directly or indirectly—it doesn’t matter), but also
forgives their abductors. Many people who read this will object
and say that these people/beings don’t deserve to be forgiven,
but the point I’m making is that the abductee needs to forgive
the perpetrators in their own mind in order to create closure
and move on with their life. Of course the perpetrators still
need to come to terms with what they have done, but that is
their process, not the abductee’s. If the abductee does this –
and really means it – a large burden should be lifted from their
UNICUS: I understand that alien abductions are a very
sensitive subject. Thank you for addressing this issue. I hope
the abductees, and their families, can find closure on this
someday. And I hope the criminals behind it are brought to
Are you familiar with the crystal skulls? If so, who do you
think created them and why?
WES PENRE: The first skull was found in the 1920s on an ancient
Mayan site in the Yucatan by a British expedition:http://www.zengardner.com/mystery-crystal-skulls/Of course, this skull, as well as
other skulls in this series of crystal skulls, are physical—at
least on one level. This means that the skulls we can touch and
see cannot be older than approximately a couple of
hundred-thousand years, the way we look at linear time, because
the physical universe as we know it, which was artificially
created by En.ki, is not older than that. This was about the
time when En.ki implanted the hologram in our physical and
astral bodies that make us stuck in what we call 3-D.
I don't know how old these skulls are, but Anna Mitchell-Hedges,
the archaeologist who found the first skull (see link above),
said that she thought it is much older than the Mayan culture.
One thing we can say with some certainty, (if the skull really
is from the Mayan culture and the rest of the skulls are from
the same time period), the Skulls were created by En.ki and his
team, i.e. the Alien Invader Force (AIF). The word "Maya"
originates from the Pleiadian star Maia, and as the reader of my
papers know, the Pleiades (the Constellation of Taurus) is
basically En.ki's residence in this sector of the Universe. The
early Mayan civilization was run by En.ki himself. And to the
Aryans of India, the term Maya means “illusion,” which is
another reference to En.ki’s artificial universe.
People who have had a skull in their possession for a while tell
us that it has healing abilities, but it also "communicates"
telepathically with sensitive people; similar to a crystal ball
that a psychic Gypsy looks into. The skull tells the story of a
very ancient past; often from the beginning of earth time, when
continents were formed, etc. Allegedly, it also shows pictures
of many ancient sites and of UFOs and other "paranormal"
phenomena. Therefore, the skulls seem to be another "device of
the gods," similar to the so-called MEs in Sumerian records,
which were advanced technology (most likely quantum computers)
made of artificially-grown nano crystals. It appears as if the
skulls are keeping records of Earth's entire history from
beginning to end, and that they also have healing capacities.
It makes me wonder; if these skulls are En.ki’s creations, why
did he leave them here, and why do they have healing
capabilities? Well, we can only speculate, because we don't know
for sure. Native American Indian legends tell us that humans
were using these skulls for healing, but for other reasons, too.
According to the Indians, these were communication devices
between humans and the gods (the AIF) across the dimensions. It
appears as if humans, such as the Mayans and others, used them
while the gods were here, but perhaps they were also being used
even after many of the gods had left – or pretended to leave. At
one point or another, the skulls were hidden, and only now, in
modern times, are they being found, one by one.
Were ancient human civilizations instructed by the gods where to
hide these skulls, so that they could remain intact for
thousands of years, until they were meant to found again, in our
Are some select humans in modern times programmed to be "drawn"
to these hidden sites where the skulls are buried, in order to
find them, without these people realizing that this is the case?
Is this process being manipulated by the gods? To me, it
certainly seems possible.
As mentioned in Zen Gardner's article, the old Indian legends
say that there are 13 skulls, and when they are all brought
together, humanity will once again be able to communicate with
the gods. According to the legends, these skulls were first and
foremost communication devices for the civilizations on Earth to
stay in touch with their gods (the AIF) when the gods were
off-planet and dwelled in other dimensions (thus, the gods could
also “keep an eye” on humans here). If we are to believe the
legends, it seems as if these 13 skulls are waiting to be found
and brought together, and once they are, will that be the time
when the gods return and show themselves to us? Will these
skulls be the communication devices we use to communicate with
the AIF across the multiple dimensions, like quantum computers,
the way it supposedly used to be?
Another thing that comes to mind is that these skulls could be
3-D versions of earlier crystals that were created in the
VOID/KHAA (the Spiritual Universe we humans lived in before the
AIF invaded our solar system and trapped us here), and were used
before the Invasion. I can't confirm if they were or not, but I
don't think so—it doesn't fit the picture. You don't need
crystals in the Spiritual Universe, although they can be very
helpful in the physical universe and across all the holographic
dimensions. In En.ki's universe, with all its astral dimensions,
crystals are used both as storage of information across these
dimensions, as communication devices, and as healing devices.
UNICUS: Wow! Your insights triggered a powerful memory in me.
I have had many lucid dreams in my life where I either find
crystals in nature or, I am in a room where crystals are
displayed. Those dreams have always left me feeling extremely
excited. In fact, I believe I was allowed to touch an Annunaki
ME crystal during a lucid dream in early 1991. At that time, I
was invited to touch that incredibly-powerful, truly-bizarre
crystal to accelerate the healing of my emotional and physical
body which was incredibly weak… I wanted to die. And I should
mention, the woman that possessed that crystal seemed to be the
polar opposite of En.ki, but related… that was my impression
based on our brief encounter. She really did help restore me to
health and balance. Therefore, based on my life experiences, I
feel it’s quite possible that crystals can and do exist in a
non-physical state and are still being used by the Annunaki,
WES PENRE: That’s interesting because another crystal skull,
other than the one found on ancient Mayan ground, also
telepathically communicated with its owner, we are told. The
skull revealed to its owner that it originates in other
dimensions, which fits into the picture we are painting here. We
need to understand that the AIF created all the "other
dimensions," and they guard them closely. The other dimensions,
as we think of them, are En.ki's creation. The authentic,
Spiritual Universe (the KHAA) exists "beyond" any dimension in
our known Universe. This is one way of looking at it in order to
make a complex subject a little more comprehensible.
Scientists today are baffled over these crystal skulls—they
don’t understand how they were created. If you carve out a
crystal to create a jaw bone such as the one on one of these
skulls, it would shatter—even with modern technology. However,
the gods have no problems creating such skulls—they use energy
to create these things, and they can then manifest them across
all the dimensions. They don't carve out anything.
The skulls hold the properties of quartz crystals, and we know
that quartz is used in computers, and silicon is used to store
memory, and quartz is also the most important component to make
watches work. Crystals can be used for psychic protection, as
UNICUS: OK. Man… That’s really interesting. I have studied the
so-called Tablets of Destiny, aka the ME (pronounced may) and
they were some type of very advanced crystal technology that was
used for warfare, communications, healing, etc. I believe this
is directly related to what we call a Tesseract which acts as a
bridge or gate between universes/dimensions like a quantum
Having read yourWes Penre Papers, I feel you are uniquely qualified to answer my next
question. Why is society being forced to accept transgenderism
as the new norm?
WES PENRE: Before I answer this question directly, I want to
digress and share what I heard from Barbara Marciniak, who
channels "the Pleiadians." She said she'd heard first-hand that
in one of the United States universities, it is now forbidden to
refer to genders in speech and in writing so long as you're a
student and you are on campus. If you violate this rule, you'll
be written up and eventually expelled. Also, if you refer to a
specific gender in a school paper, that paper will not be
accepted. I have not been able to verify this yet, but I believe
this is true.
Barbara is in a position where she wouldn't lie about such a
thing that could be quite easily debunked if it weren’t true.
Therefore, presuming that she is correct, this will in all its
absurdity make sense. Now, when we are going toward the
Singularity, when man and machine will merge into one (see my
new e-book), it makes sense to manipulate young people into
thinking that genders are not important.
This is why: Before the AIF came to earth, the first humans here
were androgynous. In fact, they were considered feminine in
nature, just as the Spiritual Universe is a feminine force. The
entire point of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and the Singularity
is to imitate the spiritual world in the physical realm, but
here on earth it's done with technology and with the intent to
trap and control. The Gnostics called these intruders the
Archons, although not all members of the AIF are AI/Androids
(but some of them are—think Grays, Reptilians, Dracos, Nordics,
Now, when we're getting close to the Singularity, the High
Schools and Universities want to "educate" (manipulate/conform)
the younger generation, which will experience the Singularity
first-hand (the Singularity is scheduled to be in full effect
around the year 2045). They want to confuse our children about
genders and teach them that "anything goes" (please understand I
do not judge people for their sexual preferences, and what I'm
going to say next has little to do with the individual; this is
about controlling the collective. Some categories of people with
alternative sexual preferences are just being used in a what is
now becoming a giant propaganda machine).
Not too long ago, homosexuals had a very difficult time existing
in society. They were put in jail, beaten up and murdered, just
as black people have been (and still are). However, in the year
2016 we are openly discussing gay marriage being legal and
accepted. Transgenderism was rarely even discussed until
recently; this type of sexuality was swept under the rug and
kept out of sight and out of mind. Recently, an incremental
transgender movement has arisen, however, highly educated people
in society, who are spokespersons for their professional field,
are now suddenly supporters of the transgender movement. Keep in
mind that the Feminist Movement in the 1960s – 70s was funded by
the Rockefellers. That's where it all started. People who are
older may think back to the 1950s and compare it to now. If
that's not polarity, I don't know what is (divide and conquer).
From stability in a strong, safe family, that was society’s norm
in the 50s, to total confusion and chaos today (diversity and
Again, all this is done to confuse and divide people. If you
don't accept that genders don't count anymore, you're soon going
to be treated like you would if you talk badly about other races
today. The AIF wants us to get used to a more androgynous way of
expressing our sexuality. This is, in due time, is going to be
obvious in video games as well, so that younger people can get
used to the idea as a normal part of their life.
Then, in the near future, when humanity is connected to the
Super Brain Computer (SBC), run by AI, and we lose more and more
of our individuality, sexuality will become obsolete over time.
However, before that, people will have virtual reality sex
instead of real sex, and this is already being introduced, as I
proved in my new book.
The thing is that the AIF does not want us to reproduce anymore
after the Singularity because we have already exceeded the
number of people they need in order for us to reach immortality
and for the AIF to have a decent legion of foot soldiers for
their future space wars. They are actually working on reducing
the population—more so over the next couple of generations after
having the older generations of today die.
The Singularity will not be implemented in full until about
2045, so part of the population control is to let the older
generations just naturally (and sometimes “unnaturally”) die
when their time comes and make the younger generations more and
more infertile and interested in virtual reality sex and sex
with androids rather than having sex and real relationships with
human partners. I provide more details about thatin my new book.
After we arrive at the Singularity and beyond, when our organs
begin to fail because of illness or old age, they will be
immediately replaced with younger versions of that same organ.
This is done with the assistance of nanobots implanted in our
blood streams. These synthetic nanobots will replace our organic
cells, which are all considered flawed according to the
Singularitists. Nanotechnology will replace the human body as we
go along—the faster the better according to Singularitists.
However, the AIF still wants our souls intact and trapped in
those more or less immortal bodies for a reason, which I discuss
in detailin my new book.
It’s important to remember that once a person is connected to
the SBC, there is no turning back. There will be no more death
after that because the soul cannot leave the cyborg body. The
entire Transhumanism Movement is about the AIF getting absolute
control over a world population of human bodies and human souls,
who all have individual minds, which are difficult to control.
Conversely, a hive-mind is easy to control. Therefore, we can
say goodbye to individual thinking. Do not get seduced by
promises of eternal health and immortality—we're heading toward
the biggest trap in the history of humanity. It's the ULTIMATE
We have never been in this much trouble before as a human soul
group. It’s literally a matter of life and death—on an eternal
level! This is very serious, and it concerns every living human
being as well as any life in the animal, plant, and mineral
kingdoms. Everything will be run by artificial intelligence, if
the Singularitists get their way. We – humanity – are the only
ones who can stop them, but we can’t stop them if we refuse to
look into this matter and object.
I may have diverted a little bit from your question, but I think
this is important. I hope you don't mind.
UNICUS: Not at all Wes. I value your insights. I know from my
experiences and research that everything is connected, which
sometimes makes matters complex and difficult to comprehend.
That is why humans tend to try and separate everything into
small segments before they study it.
In your amazing new book, Synthetic Super-Intelligence and the
Transmutation of Humankind, you provide a dire warning to
humans. You reveal that AI and the Singularity are part of the
Luciferian Agenda. When do you expect Lucifer/En.ki to return to
earth? Will he be opposed? Or, will he openly reign supreme?
WES PENRE: When we start doing this kind of research, we quickly
realize that we don't even have to be religious to understand
that historic Prophecies, such as those in the "Book of
Revelation" and the "Book of Daniel," are about to be fulfilled
because they are blueprints for what’s been planned to come by
the AIF gods. The "Battle of Armageddon" will most likely take
place when the Third World War is a reality. Quite often, we
hear rumors of war, whether they are legitimate or are just more
fear mongering and manipulating. However, those who have read
the books in the Bible that I mentioned above, know that parts
of the Prophecies are already beginning to be fulfilled. And
it's not just the Bible; many ancient texts talk about the
Return of the King, the Lord, God, the gods, or whomever their
scriptures tell people to worship—what they all have in common
is that someone "divine" is going to return, and many people are
anxiously waiting for that day to arrive!
As a side note, the Third World War does not necessarily have to
be fought on the battlefield—it could very well be the “war on
the human mind,” and if so, we’re in the middle of it.
As I wrote extensively inthe Wes Penre Papers(WPP), there are many, many people in positions of
political power that are Born Again Christians or Theosophists
(following the teachings of Helena Blavatsky from the 19th
Century). The U.N., for example, is full of members who are
Theosophists, who are waiting for the Maitreya (their version of
Christ) to come back. All these people – particularly the
Christians – WANT the Battle of Armageddon to happen because
then they "know" that the Second Coming and the Resurrection are
near. I know this sounds crazy, but it's true, and most people
know enough about Christianity to clearly understand this part
of the jig-saw puzzle we are discussing.
This is exactly what the AIF, or the Overlords, are counting on;
they need our participation in and preparations for them to
return, so they can be accepted as God and angels when they
appear to come back. This is more extreme manipulation, but it
is basically what the World Religions are there for. That's why
they were created in the first place. The Overlords are
immortal, so they don't plan in terms of a few years—they plan
for many millennia, or even millions of years in advance.
What is End Time Prophecy? Is it really the God of all things
who has planned this a long time ago, and now it's being played
out just as He said? No, the Prophecies were not created by the
God (or Goddess, rather) of all things. Religious prophecies
were created by ETs—by the AIF specifically, and one of their
most important symbols when it comes to human affairs is the all
seeing eye of En.ki/Lucifer. John the Divine and Daniel, and
other religious prophets, simply channeled various AIF beings.
They were told that they channeled God, and that they needed to
urgently spread the message to the rest of humanity.
In reality, the AIF is fulfilling their own Prophecies with a
lot of help from fanatic, religious people all over the world.
Unfortunately, we are helping the AIF to trap our souls here by
continuing to worship/work for them—that's why religion is
actually evil at its core. In order to break the spell that has
been cast on humanity, we need to look at religion as a massive
disinformation campaign with a lot of truth mixed into it to
attract people. However, the rest is clever manipulation,
steering the population in a certain direction toward the
“Return of the gods” and “the Singularity”, which is rapidly
It's impossible to predict En.ki's/Lucifer's exact time table
without asking him, and I'm sure he wouldn't give an honest
answer to that question, anyway, if we were able to ask him. We
know that astrologically, the Age of Aquarius, which is not
going to appear in our lifetime, is En.ki's sign—En.ki/Ea being
the Water Carrier, or the Water Bearer. Currently, in 2016,
Earth is under control of En.ki's son, Marduk/Ra, who could be
compared with the Biblical Satan. The problem is that when it's
time for the Changing of the Guards, we know, from a historical
perspective, that infighting usually take place among the AIF
gods. Therefore, Marduk might not want to give up his power –
even to his father. This power struggle creates competing
factions within the AIF. It usually also creates a third party,
consisting of other gods who want to be in control. A space war
is currently raging in our solar system, where even human
military is involved, as well as different factions of the gods.
There is no way for us to know the outcome of all this, but the
way I see it is that if the Singularity, which is a long-term
plan, instigated by the Overlords, arrives on schedule around
2045, it makes sense that the Return of the King will happen
before that, but who can tell for sure.
Another related event is the so-called “Rapture”. Will it happen
as predicted? Yes, I believe so. The Ra Material (which was
channeled in the 1980s) tells us there will be a "harvesting of
souls" into the Fourth Dimension/Density, but this is just a New
Age version of the “Christian Rapture”. What will the Overlords
do with the raptured (captured) souls? I can’t say for certain,
but I know enough to stay away from that with all my might.
If I have interpreted the planned chain of events correctly,
regarding the AIF agenda, a global financial collapse is right
around the corner. According to President Obama, he recently
said in one of his speeches that a new Global Financial System
is not being in the planning anymore. He said, “it’s DONE!". A
new system is ready to be implemented, and interestingly enough
he said that this new system will give everybody a "fair shot".
He is referring to the Singularity, even though he doesn't just
come out and say that.
In my new book, I warn that robots will take over
the job market within just a few years (we see the trend
already, and even the mainstream media is all over this
subject). Therefore, we must ask what will happen to human jobs?
We humans will be more and more obsolete in the job market. The
New Economy will make sure that humans can be financially
compensated and given a "fair shot" until the Singularity is
established. By that time, the building of gigantic Smart Cities
will already be in progress, and as the Singularity Guru, Ray
Kurzweil, says in books and interviews; once we start building
these giant cities that will house the future cyborgs (the new
humanity, which I call Posthuman), there will be plenty of jobs
for everybody. They are already planning on New York becoming
the first Smart City on earth.
Curiously, they have not released the new global financial
system yet--they have put it on hold. Why? I think it is because
they need to totally crash the old world economy first, and that
is most easily done by creating a WW III. This war, if it
happens as a war fought by soldiers, will most likely be a space
war. It may start off as a common war here on Earth, but fleets
of ET space craft could suddenly appear in the sky, possibly as
a majestic hologram (Project Blue Beam), and it will look as if
we are being invaded by space aliens. All nations will then
forget about their internal disagreements and come together as
One Humanity to fight this new threat. Governments will
encourage people to come together across their borders to
protect humanity as a collective species against the alien
invaders. President Reagan spoke openly about this a few times
in the 1980s as he was promoting and funding SDI (Space Defense
Initiative, aka Star Wars), and he and Gorbachev discussed the
issue in one-on-one meetings.
This is where the “war on the human mind” that I mentioned
earlier in this interview comes into the equation. The deception
that’s going to unfold, regardless of how it is done, will be
massive! This invasion will appear very real and many people
will die during this supposed staged invasion. However, the main
reason for this fake invasion is for humanity to experience how
to become ONE—ONE HUMANITY UNDER KRIST, as the god Marduk
explained it to me when I was in contact with him briefly in
2011, which you can read using this link:
"BY THE KRIST WE ARE ONE" were the exact words he used. He
emphasized to me that we are all ONE, whether I wanted to
believe that or not, and that we need to come together, forgive
each other, but not forget, and live in peace together--the
"Anunnaki" and the humans as ONE.
At that time, I hadn't connected the dots that I have connected
today, but now I understand what he meant and why he contacted
me. He wanted me to post the message from the KING in the above
link, and this King was said to be his father, En.ki/Lucifer—the
King of Nibiru. The message was a message of war against the
Global Elite and all their proxies. No one, he said, would get
away with having controlled humanity.
At first, this might sound compassionate and benevolent enough
to many people, unless we look closely at the intention behind
this (which I actually did at the time). I refused to post his
message, unless he allowed me to also post a disclaimer, saying
that I am totally against this because it will inevitably start
a World War. Nations all over the world will see this as a
Declaration of War against humanity, and nations will come
together and fight Marduk's legions. He was apparently not happy
about my disclaimer, but it was approved. So, I posted the
message with the full knowledge that I can't stop these beings,
but I can at least inform people of what's going on.
Here's a continuing possible scenario: after the staged
invasion, another "real" armada of other space aliens will
arrive on the scene and defeat Marduk's fleet and appear to
“save” humanity. However, this armada will be led by
En.ki/Lucifer. The war will be over quickly and mankind will
have their Father/Savior in charge once again—the Second Coming
becomes a reality and the King will sit on the throne for 1,000
years, according to what the AIF/Anunnaki told Dr. A.R. Bordon
and his science team a few years ago. You can go tohttp://wespenre.com/e-books.htmto
read Bordon's essays, "The Link" and "Between the Devil and the
After the AIF war, people will realize that they are ONE nation
under GOD and this will manipulate most of the population into
accepting the Singularity. The AIF, in order to not break the
Law of Free Will, need our approval to be able to establish
their New World Order, which means a world currency and a cyborg
population (the successors of the current Homo sapiens sapiens,
i.e. the Posthumans), controlled by an AI Super Brain Computer.
It's not that the AIF genuinely care about the Law of Free Will,
but those who created us do (the Queen of the Stars and her
If the AIF does not have our consent when they make major
changes, they are in serious legal trouble with the Court of
If we stand up against the Overlords, the Orion Queen (En.ki’s
mother) can interfere and help us to get out of this trap in a
way that I describe in my new book. It would be our final
release from this entrapment, and the AIF would be put on trial
for crimes against humanity. However, so long as we agree with
the AIF and work with them, wittingly or unwittingly, the Orion
Empire can't do anything to assist because if she did, She would
be the one to break the Law of Free Will. Intelligent criminals,
such as the Cosmic Overlords headed by En.ki, are experts in
circumventing the law. Personally, I don't believe we have time
to wait for the AIF to make a mistake because they haven't so
far. We need to stay on top of this, and we need to do it now.
I can't guarantee that the above events will take place—this is
just what makes the most sense to me based on the years of
intense research I've done thus far. However, regardless of the
order of events, the end result will be the same – the
Singularity – unless humanity wakes up and acts in their own
best interest very, very soon.
This may all seem quite depressing, but it's always better to be
informed and prepared. If a pack of wolves are ten minutes away,
and they are out to get us for their next meal, would we rather
not know about it and "hope for the best" that someone will save
us. Or, would it be better to be told about it in advance and
have time to climb up a tree before the wolves arrive?
Nevertheless, even if the majority of humankind can't be saved
from the Singularity, there is still a workable soulution for
those who have invested enough time and energy in learning about
what is going on. I have presented a possible soulution to this
situation in my new book.
UNICUS: I feel it’s important to publicly identify the problem
we are all facing, and put it in the proper context, before it’s
too late to do anything about it. Having met En.ki/Lucifer
face-to-face in Malibu in 1985, I know that one of the
personas/titles he likes to use is The Father because that’s how
he introduced himself to me. He looked like Jesus with long
hair, a beard and a white robe both times I encountered him.
It took me nearly 3 decades to figure out who he really was/is.
And then I was even more shocked when I realized He is the
Biblical Father in Heaven which explains why millions of people
have been murdered in his name and millions more will be
murdered as a blood sacrifice to him before he returns to openly
reign supreme during an alleged 1,000-years-of-peace. However,
thanks to the books of Zecharia Sitchin, there are quite a few
people in our time that are claiming that the God of the Bible
is En.ki’s brother En.lil. Can you help set the record straight
on this sensitive subject?
WES PENRE: This can be very confusing because the AIF,
specifically En.ki and his son Marduk, are brilliant at tricking
and manipulating us humans. Actually, that is one of En.ki’s
titles among North American Indians: “the Trickster.” Their type
of manipulation is not limited to humans—En.ki/Lucifer has even
tricked former inhabitants of the Orion Empire to rebel against
his parents; the Queen and the King of the Orion Empire.
Scripture tells us that Lucifer/En.ki, being the manipulative
trickster that he is, managed to manipulate a third of all the
angels in Heaven.
If this is true, a third of the inhabitants of the Orion Empire
were manipulated into rebelling against the current system, but
were defeated and cast out of Heaven (the Orion Empire) by
“Archangel Michael.” He is the equivalent of En.lil Jr., aka
Prince Ninurta. He is En.ki’s brother, which is something I
explore in detail inthe Wes Penre Papers(WPP), in “The Fourth Level of Learning.” En.ki/Lucifer
still has most of these interdimensional beings trapped in his
rebel empire under his "spell."
Yes, many times En.ki/Lucifer has manifested himself as a man
with long white hair and a long beard—often dressed in a robe.
That's the archetype of a god or an angel, right? However, any
interdimensional beings can manifest in whatever shape and form
they wish. We call it "shapeshifting," but these manifestations
are actually thought forms, manifested by energy and frequency.
Therefore, when interdimensional beings do this, they can appear
just as solid as you or I if they want to, or they can be more
ethereal if they wish to make more of a "godlike" appearance.
Normally, they don't stay in that form very long because it
takes a lot of focused energy to remain manifest here in 3-D for
a long time. It’s more convenient for them to take control of
one of the bodies in stasis that the AIF possess, both here on
Earth (underground) and on Mars (underground), which they can
jump in and out of in case they need to stay in 3-D for a while.
When they use those bodies, we are unable to distinguish between
them and us because at that moment they are human—their bodies
are as human as ours. The only difference is the brain capacity;
these bodies are wired so the host can use 100% of the brain/DNA
connectivity, while we only use about 5 - 10% (unfortunately
most earth people use less than that, on average because of
thousands of years of genetic/spiritual manipulation).
What En.ki/Lucifer and his son Marduk/Ra often did was to
shapeshift and take on the persona/appearance of the King of
Orion (also known as Khan En.lil, or Anu/An), and his son Prince
En.lil/Ninurta, in order to confuse humans and other
interdimensional beings, when needed, to further their AIF
Zecharia Sitchin and many others, who wrote and lectured
publicly about the ancient Sumerian gods (Sitchin died in 2010),
claimed that YHVH/YeHoVaH was/is Prince En.lil. But before we
hurry to establish that claim as factual, we need to be clear
about one thing; En.lil, En.ki, and Ea, among other "names" used
in the ancient text are actually not names. They are titles.
Most scholars are in agreement on this.
That is why we have two En.lils, for example—stepfather and son
have the same title, but one is the King of Orion and the other
is the Crown Prince of Orion. Therefore, En.ki and Marduk think
it's legitimate to toss these titles around as they please when
they take on new roles in this 3-D realm; roles that correspond
to these titles. It's also convenient for them to portray
friends of humanity (the Queen, the King, and the Crown Prince
En.lil) as enemies, and vice versa. However, if we take the time
and effort to put all the pieces together, we realize that it's
crucial for the AIF to trick us in this way.
The real name of these beings are not known to humanity, but the
question is, do they actually have names? Do they need names in
the Spiritual Universe? Could it be that beings recognize each
other through spiritual energy signatures, just as every song
has a distinct melody and mood?
Based on my years of research, it's easy to see that the entire
Creation Story we read in the Enûma Eliš, and other creation
stories from around the world, are fabricated to a certain
degree. We need to keep in mind that these texts were often
dictated by the gods and written down by their scribes.
Therefore, what became the ancient texts that we know today were
the stories the AIF gods wanted us to believe. They do not
always reflect what really happened. But, as we discussed
earlier, the gods (as well as the Global Elite today) love to
hide the truth in plain sight. They just can't help themselves.
However, more importantly, they need to always tell us the truth
in one way or another in order to get our consent, as I've
mentioned many times in my writings.
It’s important for people to understand that Adam and Eve were
not two specific individuals. They are archetypes, and if we
don’t realize this, the entire Lucifer/En.ki and En.lil/YHVH
story makes no sense, and neither does the Bible or any other
sacred texts. It is no secret that En.ki is known as
Satan/Lucifer in the Bible. He is the Serpent in the Garden of
Eden. Thus far, I believe most readers who have read Sitchin, or
similar material – or the Bible, for that matter – are in
agreement with me up to this point.
We also know that En.ki was/is the Master Geneticist among the
AIF (he learned much of it from his mother, the Queen of Orion,
before he rebelled). Therefore, doesn't it make more sense that
Prince En.lil, in the case of the Garden of Eden, is the
Protector of the Primordial Man, whom I call the Namlu'u in my
papers? Doesn't it make sense that the Garden of Eden is the
"Golden Age" in the Spiritual Universe before En.ki arrived?
After En.ki took over, he manipulated the Namlu'u (the Spiritual
Humankind) into entering human bodies that were 3-D in nature
and infested with implants that would trap these souls—and he
gave us death and amnesia so we don't know who we are and whence
we came. We, the Namlu'u, fell for it. How else would it make
Subsequently, En.ki and Marduk both played the role of God
Almighty to their new, genetically modified species—Homo
sapiens. Thus, we have this schizophrenic "God" (Jehovah) who
sometimes is mild in nature, and then all of a sudden changes
personality and becomes a jealous, brutal and blood-thirsty
psychopath. It's just En.ki and Marduk taking turns playing GOD.
En.ki is the "mild manipulator" while Marduk is the
blood-thirsty "no-nonsense, right-to-the-point” God of wrath.
Why would En.lil want to become Jehovah and lead the genetically
engineered humans, whom En.ki had created, and why would he want
to control them? En.lil (and the Orion Empire) was the one who
was defeated in En.ki/Lucifer’s invasion of Earth, and Homo
sapiens were abominable manipulations of the original Experiment
En.lil and the Queen of Orion embarked on so long ago. Why would
En.lil want to be God and protect the hijacked Experiment that
he and mother created on Earth? It doesn't make any sense when
we really think about it. There is more to this, and I write
about it in my papers. However, this is a good summary.
We humans have one big weakness when it comes to learning
things—we listen too much to authorities, and then we absorb
this and make it part of our overall belief system without
questioning it. Once absorbed, we begin to spread this
information to others, believing that it's true because some
authority figure said it or wrote it. We then firmly defend our
beliefs (based on what authority figures tell us), even past the
point where it no longer makes sense, because no one wants to be
wrong. Most of us have been guilty of this to some degree at one
point or another, and I'm no exception. However, these days,
realizing how easy it is to unwittingly do this, I do my
absolute best not to take anything as gospel just because
someone says so. If it sounds interesting, I try to figure out
on my own whether it could be of any real benefit for humanity
or if it’s just more hot air.
The story of En.lil and En.ki is the key to our true history,
and it's crucial that we figure out who is who and what is what.
Don't take my word for it—read my papers and my new e-book for
more information (it's all free of charge). If what I'm
reporting rings true to you, do further research on your own.
However, if you research the ancient texts, please be sure to
crosscheck what you learn. More importantly, read between the
lines and see if you can connect some of the dots. It’s easier
said than done because the AIF are masters at mixing truths with
Keep in mind that En.ki is the father of having crafted
genetically engineered humankind, but he is also Lucifer/Satan –
the serpent – the Father of Lies (and Manipulation). En.ki is
known as a "Trickster God" and the Father of the Archons. I am
aware that Marduk has also rightly been associated with Satan,
but more so when he was assigned leadership of Earth while his
father En.ki has been away. After all, Satan only means
“adversary,” so this title could fit anyone that is opposed to
As a rule of thumb, if you're stuck and become confused in your
research, step back and review the version that is commonly used
and believed to be true by a majority of mankind. Then, turn it
around and look at it from the totally opposite side. Many
times, this reverse mirror perspective gave me the "aha moments"
I needed in order to get unstuck and continue moving forward
again in my search for truth. In this world, black is often
white and white is often black. In general, that is how we are
The following is a common theme: the researcher finds out that
the creation of Homo sapiens originates from an ancient ET
species and not from a literal God. This is a major discovery
for the researcher. Then they find out that there were two
brothers, En.ki and En.lil, and En.ki created Homo sapiens. From
different “authoritarian” authors and lecturers they learn that
En.ki is the “good guy” and En.lil is the “bad guy.” Because
En.ki created us, our love goes out to him. We learn that he is
not perfect, but he “means well” and he loves humanity.
The researcher learns the above, up to that point, by more or
less turning mainstream religion and history upside down, and
alas! There it is! However, now it’s time to turn the
alternative version upside down, too, and realize that En.ki is
not the benefactor of humankind. The evidence of this is
overwhelming when we look at it. The “authoritarian” authors and
“scholars,” some of them purposely, didn’t go back in history
far enough to get the fuller picture, i.e. the story of what
happened before the so-called Anunnaki arrived. If they’d told
that story as well, the roles of En.ki and En.lil would be
reversed. However, many alternative researchers are stubborn and
refuse to change their perspective on this—in fact, some of them
are even unwilling to even look into it. They are so “sure” that
En.ki is a friend of humanity when in reality he is the puppet
master. Despite the evidence, these people continue to worship
En.ki because they suffer fromStockholm
It’s not only time for the masses to wake up; it’s also time for
the alternative research community to do the same and not
blindly believe what they’re told by others – always be vigilant
and question everything – even my research. Do your own
research, and you will see if it confirms my conclusions or not.
Here are some important insights regarding the key players
involved in Earth affairs:
1. En.lil (Prince En.lil/Ninurta) never challenged his mother,
the Queen of Orion. To this day, he loves his mother and would
defend Her with his life.
2. Khan En.lil (the King of Orion) is Prince En.lil's and
En.ki's stepfather, who signed the Peace Contract with the Queen
of Orion a very long ago, from our time perspective--long before
Lucifer's Rebellion. (Again, En.lil and En.ki are just titles.
It's not their real names).
3. Prince En.lil, aka the En.lil Sitchin wrote about, is working
for his Mother and stepfather. He is second in charge of the
MIKH-MAKH warriors of the Orion Empire. Khan En.lil (the King of
Orion) is First in Command.
4. Yes, Prince En.lil helped his Mother (together with the
Vulcans/Vegans) build the Living DNA Library here on earth,
which was then given to him to oversee.
5. Prince En.lil’s daughter, Isis, (which is just another title)
was abducted by En.ki and brought to Earth and raped. When En.ki
copulated with Isis, she bore him a son (Marduk), and helped him
create a new, genetically modified human race based on the
existing, divine DNA on Earth. Prince En.lil got furious that
his brother had manipulated and raped his daughter, and he
castrated En.ki on the battlefield in the Rigel star system
(this is where the story about Osiris, Isis, Horus, and Set
originates from). After that, when En.ki had become sterile,
Marduk (En.ki’s son) was put in charge of creating the new
humanity, and that’s why we have a lot of different hybrids
walking around on Earth.
6. Isis managed to flee (something even Sitchin wrote about) and
found her father's Garden of Eden that was now deserted and in
ruins. She started crying and realized what she had done from
being manipulated by these two evil beings, and in order to pay
tribute to her father, En.lil, and her grandmother the Queen of
Orion, she tried to remember how to create a pure human race—an
androgynous race such as the Namlu'u. She managed to a certain
degree, and she created a female race with red hair that was
androgynous. Remnants of this race is said to still exist,
living under the Earth. In my WPP, I speculate that the VRIL
women of the Thule Society could actually have been offspring of
I believe Isis is still on the run, probably hiding somewhere on
Earth—both from her father En.lil, whom she thinks may be angry
with her, and from her son Marduk, and his father, En.ki.
7. En.ki is in charge of the AIF in our solar system; but he has
temporarily assigned that responsibility to his son, Lord
8. Prince En.lil and his father, Khan En.lil, did something we
humans have a hard time understanding and accepting. Around
13,000 earth years ago, they wanted all creatures on Earth to
perish in the Flood because En.ki had modified the divine DNA of
the Living Library to such a degree that there was no symbiosis
in nature whatsoever, and everybody seemed to suffer. En.ki had
created predatory and parasitic beasts that we only see in our
worst nightmares. And after he got tired of them, or when they
no longer filled his purpose, he just let them run free on Earth
and create havoc. If there ever was a Hell, it was probably
Earth before the Deluge.
9. En.ki saved his son, Noah, and his family, and the seed from
the "Global Elite," i.e. the seed that had the most En.ki DNA in
it. He wanted to recreate his minions after the Flood was over.
UNICUS: Good answer. Thanks for summarizing that information.
Do you know of any way that humans can deactivate the nanobots
the AIF Luciferians have covertly put in our bodies?
WES PENRE: It seems as if there is no way to rid our bodies from
nanobots. They are making sure they get them inside us one way
or another. I don't know when they will be activated and what
will happen then, or whether they will be activated in
increments in compliance with their agenda.
What can we do? The only thing I can think of is to have clear
intentions and communicate telepathically to the "universe" that
we are sovereign and decide our own future, and that we don't
agree to have the nanobots activated. In this way our discontent
will be felt by the AIF, and hopefully they will abide by our
free will. The people that don't protest may not be so lucky. I
am not even sure if it will work, but I will give it my best
UNICUS: I know you are aware of the Gnostic revelations about
entities they called Archons. Archon (Greek
ἄρχων arkhon) is a Greek word that means "ruler" or "lord,"
which is frequently used as the title of a specific public
office. It is the masculine present participle of the verb stem
ἀρχ-, meaning "to rule," derived from
the same root as monarch. However, one of the many revelations I
received while reading your research was this: I believe the
correct spelling of Archon was/is: AR.KHAN.
WES PENRE: That is pretty interesting to say the least. Is there
a reference as well to that spelling?
UNICUS: No. But while reading your papers, I was reminded that
KHAN is an ancient title that means the King or Lord of the
Queen’s KHAA (breath of creation)… I suspect that was the
original spelling/meaning behind the title. Of course, that
title was hijacked and perverted by En.ki when he was denied
Kingship of the royal court of Orion by his family, which led to
him creating his own rival empire and starting a galactic civil
war. Therefore, the rulers of this illegitimate, rebel empire
are the AR.KHAN or Archon.
WES PENRE: Well, the Archons and the AIF (Alien Invader Force)
are based on the same old truth. I was aware of the Gnostic
legends of Archons before I started writing my papers, but I
decided not to call the beings I am discussing "Archons," for
one reason: Although the AIF are the Archons as described from a
religious perspective in the Gnostic texts (in most parts), I
believe I expand on the concept with new, secular
discoveries--and sometime with parallel discoveries that do not
totally fit in with the Gnostic/Archon picture (although I still
believe they are one and the same). If I had called them Archons
in my research papers, I'd feel sort of put in a "box" and would
need to compare the two (AIF and Archons) most of the time, and
I would not like to do that.
Unfortunately, the few Gnostic texts remaining in existence give
an incomplete, and therefore somewhat inaccurate, reading of the
situation we are in. The last thing I want is that all the New
Agers who write about the most outlandish fantasies on aliens to
start calling the AIF "Archons." That would totally kill the
whole concept of the Gnostics, just as John Lash mentioned
somewhere. Therefore, I'd like the Gnostic Texts and their use
of the term Archons to remain separate from my research as much
as possible, although it is of course fair to mentally compare
UNICUS: Yes. It makes perfect sense. I often use the Gnostic
term Archons as a reference point for conversation. These
entities have been called many names by mankind, such as flyers,
Grigori, demons, djin, unclean spirits, etc. But they are all
the same parasitic, predatory entities.
I hope you understand that many of my colleagues in the media
would like to interview you and they hope you will change your
mind someday about doing radio and/or TV interviews.
WES PENRE: I realize that people who have read my papers want me
to speak on radio shows to spread the information to a large
audience all at once, but to really boil it down, there is one
major reason why I don't want to expose myself and the material
in such a way—at least not at this time: I'm confident that
those who are ready for the material will find it. Thus far, it
has tended to work well that way.
There will be a great inflow from readers in the beginning when
something like this is released--these are the people who had
already been waiting for such material. Then it will slow down
for a while, and a little later the inflow will increase again,
and so on, until it really breaks loose. It has a tendency to
happen in clusters, almost like an avalanche or like waves. This
way, the majority of the people who read the material will be
the ones who are serious about it, and the ones who have
intentions to distort it will be less. If I discuss it on Coast
to Coast at this time, for example, too many people with
different intentions will react to the material, and it will
most likely create a certain amount of confusion. The bottom
line is that I'm trying to protect the integrity of my research
material to the best of my ability.
If I ever do grant a live interview, I would want it to be
conducted by some with knowledge on the subject. That way, there
will be less personal attacks on me. And if attacks occur, it
will be on the material and not so much on me and the material,
which would confuse the matter and divert the public’s
attention. Although there are people who want to “shoot the
messenger,” that is more likely to be a short-term thing.
However, it’s always unpleasant for the person who is attacked,
of course. What I’m trying to convey here is that I want to
create as little confusion and diversions as possible—it’s not
that I try to hide because I don’t want to be attacked. I’m
always thinking in terms of what is best for the material.
Last, but not the least, I prefer email interviews, such as this
one, for another simple reason. If you go on a live or even a
recorded video or radio show, you need to answer questions on
the spot, without providing any real depth to your answers
because time is limited. You may be able to answer the questions
fairly well anyway (some people are better at this than others),
but in an email interview, you have time to ponder the questions
and make sure you answer them to the absolute best of your
ability. You can make sure the reader gets the most out of the
interview. I’m a thinker and a writer, and this is where my
strength is—I’m not a very good verbal communicator, and it’s
not because English is my second language; I’ve always been this
I want to test this hypothesis, and thus far it's worked the way
I predicted. But yes, we'll see. If I change my mind (and I
might—when time is right), I would actually like to go on a show
with you first. I have remotely read your soul's energies, and I
can tell that you're a very sincere, honest man with a big
heart. You have no hidden agenda.
UNICUS: Thanks Wes. I look forward to hosting a live interview
with you someday.
Are you aware of a relatively new entity on Earth that calls
himself Rayel? He claims to be Christ returned. Based on your
research, who is this person, really?
WES PENRE: Yes, I'm aware of Rayel. He is mentioned in WikiLeaks,
I believe. I have studied him some, and I decided to keep an eye
on him because there are some things about him that are quite
questionable. However, as yet, nothing has been proven either
way. While I was studying him, it made me wonder if he is the
modern version of the Maitreya from the 1980s.
He is wearing the cross of the Knights Templar and claims many
connections. The red cross goes way back in time—all the way to
Orion. It is basically "The Cross of Ninurta," aka Prince
En.lil. It's the cross of the MIKH-MAKH Warriors. I'm sure
Prince En.lil wouldn't be too happy to see RA-Y-EL (RA of
ELohim) wear his cross. However, that symbol was hijacked by
En.ki 1/2 million years ago, or more.
As I stated in my papers, En.ki and other interdimensional
beings split their fire into different fragments, but each
fragment has the memory of the whole; therefore, there can be
two Maitreya, and there can be two fragments of Marduk or two
fragments of En.ki. In the other dimensions, this is a common
UNICUS: What is the purpose behind the growing trend of humans
having sex with robots?
WES PENRE: This is another subject I examine in my papers; how
humans in the future will take robotic lovers and life partners
because people will forget how to interact face to face with
each other; in part, because having a "sexy" robot that never
says no will be quite appealing to many people. The fact that
this is increasingly being reported in the main-stream media as
a powerful, new trend in society is one the reasons I wrote my
new book on AI and the Singularity.
UNICUS: Yes. I recall reading about that in your papers and
your new book. It seems to me that the increase in access to
pornography via the Internet was an important step toward
dehumanizing human, sexual relations in preparation for the
Singularity. As I see it, the goal is to gradually transform us
from mankind into manchinekind: to completely control us and
cause us to better serve the AIF agenda.
You have publicly stated in the past that Scientology is a group
you spent time participating in and are intimately familiar
with. I realize it is just a rumor, but do you have any idea if
L. Ron Hubbard was involved in opening a portal for the AIF near
Area 51, in Nevada, with the help of Jack Parsons?
WES PENRE: Parsons and Hubbard worked closely together.
Scientology (Scn) always tried to deny this when the media found
out about it, but it's ridiculous because it's coming from the
horse's mouth! In the "Philadelphia Doctorate Course," which was
a long series of lectures held by Hubbard in 1952 or 1954 (I
can’t remember which), Hubbard talked about his collaboration
with Parsons. Later, in 1956, if my memory serves me well when
it comes to the year of release, Hubbard also mentioned Parsons
in a "Hubbard Policy Letter" and wrote about him in kind words,
mentioning that Parsons blew himself up. Still, Scn tried to
deny the connection whenever they could.
When it became too obvious, Scn played on Hubbard's link to Navy
Intelligence and suggested that Hubbard was working for the
Government as an infiltrator in "evil Secret Societies" with the
purpose to create confusion and split them up. In the case of
the OTO, Hubbard succeeded beyond expectation (Scn's own words).
The above is true (except the part where Scn says that Hubbard
was infiltrating secret societies) because I was a high level
Scientologist myself in the mid to late 1980s and I'm an OT VII
completion, a Dianetic auditor and a Class V auditor as well,
and I have done the Philadelphia Doctorate Course, so I know
what is on those tapes. No Scientologist who has listened to
them can deny that they contain the information I am giving you
here. None of it is hearsay.
Now, when we look at it after the fact, it's obvious that
Hubbard and Parsons opened up one or more portals, which let
certain interdimensional (some would call them "demonic") forces
into our reality, and since then the UFO phenomenon has really
taken off, hasn't it? These two black magicians with their OT
Grade IX sex magick really messed things up here. Yes, Hubbard
was working for Navy Intelligence way back when, but they had no
intention to break up any OTO lodge. Hubbard was in on it—there
is more evidence saying that he was. Even his own son has
witnessed against him. I find it interesting that Hubbard called
the upper level of Scn the "OT levels," (dropping the last "O"
of OTO which is the Ordo Templi Orientis led by Alister
UNICUS: That really interesting.
Here is a linkto an article from The Sunday
Times, 5 October, 1969, for people that would like to learn more
about this topic:
I was wondering if you could comment on the link I sent you
regarding my experiences, discoveries and research in Malibu.
What connection does my research have with yours?
WES PENRE: I looked at your updates a little bit last night and
more so this morning. I also followed a few of the links from
the page you gave me to the monuments in Malibu. There is some
very intriguing information you have gathered—particularly the
part that is self-experienced. I want to say that the UFO bases
along the US west coast (and in California particularly) are
very real, and although there are those (of course!) who have
said that the pictures of the underwater platforms are just a
natural formation, that's of course not true. I have it from
good sources that En.ki and his cohorts have bases under the
ocean, and especially along the west coast of the US, and also
underneath the bottom of the Mexican Gulf.
UNICUS: Yes. This has been made clear to me also during my
many close encounters and contacts and decades of research in
this field. However,I wrote an article, with graphic images from Google Earth, proving that
the so-called UFO base off the coast of Malibu was/is a red
herring designed to distract the public’s attention.
That does not mean there are no UFOs in Malibu. I had many close
encounters there, but I suspect they were coming in and out
through portals/stargates. I would not be surprised if there are
underground and underwater cities/bases in California controlled
by the AIF. However, the platform/mound in Malibu is not a
massive opening with giant columns to a UFO base as some people
have claimed on the Internet since 2014.
WES PENRE: OK. I have a question about this light being you
encountered in Malibu who said he was your Father, or “the
Father.” I definitely don't want to evaluate anything and my
question is only out of curiosity. Are you totally certain that
this luminous being actually was En.ki? (Again, I am NOT saying
that he wasn't). You sound quite sure about that he actually
was. What is it that made you certain about it? Could he have
been someone else?
UNICUS: Good question. Yes, at this point I am positive it was
En.ki/Lucifer. It could not have been someone else. It has taken
me a relatively long time (nearly 3 decades) to admit this to
myself and the rest of the world. In fact, it was soon after I
began reading your papers in late 2014 (and then finding other
historic references) that I finally realized that “the Father”
was/is En.ki/Lucifer “The Light Bearer.”
But at that time, when I had that out-of-body experience and
entered a dimension of white light in 1985, and he approached me
and said he was "the Father", that seriously confused me, which
I believe was what he wanted to do. He then began laughing at
me... and although, for many years, I said publicly that his
laughter was not sinister... in fact it was very sinister, I
just didn’t want to admit that to myself or others. And, in
hind-sight, the abandon Cold War military radar installation I
was located on that night had Satanic graffiti on it. People
were most likely performing Satanic rituals on that site in the
wilderness, but I was unaware of that at the time.
In any case, after Lucifer/En.ki began laughing in my face, the
very next thing I knew, I suddenly sat up right and thought I
had briefly experienced a very strange vision... I knew I was
not asleep or dreaming during this enigmatic event. I was
totally lucid and had only laid down for a few moments before
floating out of my body into the light.
At the moment I came back into my body, I suddenly stood up and
looked out to the horizon and was shocked to see the moon was
setting. That really freaked me out because when I laid down the
moon was nearly overhead which meant that hours had passed and I
had absolutely no memory of that time – I still don’t. I was
given amnesia by En.ki/Lucifer for reasons I could not
comprehend at that time. One moment I was totally coherent. The
next, I was unable to account for my actions in the astral
There is much more to that story. So,here is a linkto a recent article I wrote to help
people fully understand what happened to me that day/night:
I should tell you that a few weeks after my encounter with the
Father (En.ki/Lucifer) in the mountains, I had a very-dramatic,
lucid dream. I was back at my childhood home in Malibu. When I
say “lucid”, I mean it was just like being home again except I
was in my spirit body and for some reason I knew it, but it was
OK. It was a beautiful sunny day in my “dream”. I looked out
over the blue, sparkling water to the horizon and felt happy to
be home. I then felt compelled to turn around and look up just
as 3 golden-glowing UFOs were coming out of the east; descending
over my family home before the swiftly plunged into the Pacific
Ocean, just off the coastline at Zuma Beach where we lived for
many years. Moments later, in my "dream", the 3 UFOs came flying
back out of the water, into the sky, heading back the way they
came... again passing directly over my home which made me
extremely excited! This time they were glowing a silver light.
At that point in my dream, I yelled for my dad to come out of
the house and see the UFOs... he had an art studio where he
often worked long hours at home creating original, pallet-knife
paintings during the week. But right after I yelled for my
biological dad to come out see the UFOs over the house, there
was a flash of white light just outside my dad’s art studio and
standing there was the same man I met in the mountains who
claimed to be “the Father.”
Once again, He/En.ki had the same appearance. He/En.ki looked
like Jesus with long hair, a beard and a white robe. At that
point, without hesitation, I walked over to him and hugged him.
I then woke up and I mean I was wide awake with my heart
pounding. I was severely startled to have seen this
very-strange, illuminated character again... I intuitively knew
that this was not just a bizarre dream… it was another cryptic
message. I realized he wasn’t my biological dad, but I wondered
what he actually meant by calling himself the Father. I was
extremely perplexed by all this.
It was at that point I became really curious and began hiking in
the mountains where I first met the Father hoping to see him
again and ask some questions. Ironically, that’s how I
discovered (or was led to) the ancient megalithic monuments in
Malibu. And, over the years, when spending the night there on
more than one occasion, I had multiple close encounters with
UFOs. In fact, there were a few times when the UFOs sent a
powerful, white light silently down where myself and my friends
were standing on the mountain top above Point Mugu. But I did
not see the Father again. It was many years later that I learned
he was/is known as the Father of the Archons, and the Father of
WES PENRE: Well, according to the Gnostics, Earth was created by
Sophia, a young goddess from the center of the Galaxy, and to
make a long story short, she created the Archons by mistake, and
while Sophia's soul inhabited Earth itself and got stuck there,
from what I understand. I must admit that I am definitely not an
expert on the Gnostic texts—I'm just familiar with the absolute
basics. But in relation to the archons, here is another
question, also just out of curiosity: How did you come to the
conclusion that En.ki and his rebels were infected by these
archontic entities and that this was the reason for him turning
"bad" and starting his rebellion?
UNICUS: That’s a very important question Wes. Soon after I had
my encounters with the Father and began finding the megalithic
stone statues and other artifacts in Malibu, a neighbor gave me
a copy of a book that he thought would help put things into
perspective.Here is linkto an important excerpt from that
book which was written by a friend of my biological dad.
I am familiar with what little is known about the Gnostic belief
re. Archons. It is incomplete and misleading in my opinion.
However, as it turns out, Lucifer/Enki is called the Lord of the
Archons for good reason. Prior to going mad, En.ki and his
space-faring crew were god-like Builders of Worlds. They
accidentally created these mental parasites (archons) with their
consciousness when they entered a forbidden zone (like a black
hole), were severely traumatized and went insane. Although they
eventually managed to escape the forbidden zone, En.ki and his
crew had become demonic, parasitic Destroyers of Worlds
suffering from multiple personality disorder and mental
parasites (what some people call demons) much like a dog that
contracts rabies and becomes dangerous and disobedient. If that
really happened, I’m certain that was why En.ki was denied his
position as KHAN of ORION. And that is why he later created his
own illegitimate, corrupt, cruel empire.
And that also explains why he confronted me that night in the
mountains. He is the Father of the Archons. I had seen his
mental parasites (archon) in action and was unintentionally able
to interrupt them during a feeding frenzy. I learned from
experience that these mental parasites are attached to and are
affecting the consciousness of the former god-like beings you
call the AIF as well as humans here. Like so many other aspects
of our origins, this fact has been badly twisted into a Gordian
It was very difficult for me to unravel this hidden critical
aspect of our history. But with a great deal of patience and
persistence, I was given the insights required to see the
situation in its actual context and then report my findings.
However, I should explain how that happened. At some point in
2011, I became very frustrated with researching these parasites
and evil overlords... I felt as though I couldn't figure it out
no matter how hard I tried. So, I decided to ask for help from
Ironically, I mentally visualized the Father (not knowing he was
actually En.ki) and sent a mental message to him for clarity on
this issue. Some time passed, and then I suddenly started to
find that books and other information that I had read many times
in the past had now become clear to me. And every time I felt
that I was starting to see the truth, I got a mental message to
be patient... more pieces of the puzzle were coming. And they
Once I had enough information (including photos of the mental
parasite/thought forms) I wrote my first article. However, I was
unsure about being a messenger for this very sensitive subject.
So, I mentally visualized the Father again (still not knowing it
was En.ki) and told him/them that if he/they wanted me to give
this information to mankind he/they needed to give me a sign.
A few weeks later, I received an urgent phone call from the
producer at Coast to Coast AM. She explained that George Noory's
FATHER had just passed away and the crew was in crisis mode. She
wanted to know if I could come on the show that night as a last
minute guest, which never happened to me before or since that
time. Naturally, I said yes without thinking about what I would
discuss on the show. I then asked what we would be talking
about? She thought for a moment and asked me, “What do you
have?” So, I sent her the link to my first Archon Article and
she read it while we were on the phone.
She was shocked and I told her we didn’t have to cover that
topic, but she wanted to run with it. I asked are you SURE? She
said yes! That specific show was highly emotional for many
reasons. George was trying to keep his composure, but he was
clearly shaken by the passing of his father. At one point he
told me that my Archon revelations were the scariest thing he
had ever heard. I remained calm and told George and his audience
that there was no reason to fear this situation. I explained
that the fact that we were finally discussing this serious
matter publicly was a very good sign. I stated the obvious that
you can't solve a problem if you don't know you have one. As a
result, after that show I received email from all over the world
from people thanking me. They were so grateful that someone was
finally talking about this problem... because all these people
had experienced the Archon parasites, also.
Apparently, in retrospect, some off-world intelligence gave me a
lesson plan and a mission... which, in 2014 rapidly accelerated
to an apex, and that’s when I found your work which I referenced
during my last interview on Coast to Coast in Nov. 2014. Soon
after that, I received even more insights and I wrote 2 final
articles on the Archons and their mental parasites. At that
point, I really thought I was done. But it appears I had simply
graduated to another level. My work to improve the human
condition here will continue until I leave this world
WES PENRE: According to the Gnostics (at least according to John
Lash) the archons were born in the Orion Nebula, and so were
apparently the human souls as well. Is this why you concluded
that En.ki may have been infected by the Archons?
UNICUS: Absolutely not. I found more than one source that
indicates En.ki/Lucifer is the Father of the Archons… By relying
on the incomplete writings of the Gnostics, Mr. Lash has made
some incorrect conclusions, in my opinion. I urge people who are
interested in this subject toread my article on this specific topicand decide for themselves if it’s a
more accurate assessment of how/why the Archons were
accidentally created by En.ki/Lucifer:
My feeling is that what little we have been given of the Gnostic
teachings has been edited to blame the Goddess Sophia for this
mess. It’s a lot like Christianity which blames EVE for being
EVIL and affecting all of us with her “original sin.” This
misogynistic message is coming from En.ki/Lucifer. He hates
women. Especially his mother: the Queen of Orion.
WES PENRE: OK. Recently, I started following the links on yourARTICLES page, which led me to new links,
etc. The Tau Ceti connection is interesting. The main stream
media is reporting that scientist have actually found planets in
the inhabitable zone there, and I also found the page written by
an alleged human ET you interviewed rather interesting. I want
to read more about that stuff. I'd like to see how that all fits
into the bigger picture.
UNICUS: I agree, it’s interesting. Unfortunately, it’s
probably not accurate. We live in a galactic war zone. And the
first casualty of war is always “Truth.” That’s why, on this
world, it's best not to believe anything until you can verify
it, and trust no one until they earn it.
I really appreciate you taking time to share your insights on
these matters Wes. I find that very few people on this planet
have a clear understanding and appreciation of the important
information you and I are researching and reporting.
One final question, what is your take on the UFOs that are
reported in modern times. Are they technology or something alive
WES PENRE: A lot of what people are seeing in the skies –
sometimes even "objects" that look like some kind of craft – are
life forms rather than spaceships. Many people have now started
to reconsider this and have begun to realize that these may not
be ships after all. I'm not saying that some of them can't be
vehicles, but a large percentage are life forms that bleed
through the dimensions—intentionally most of the time and
unintentionally some of the time. On occasion, some of them are
beings and “spacecraft” all in one.
I know this is pretty far out there for many people, but it’s
something to consider. I hinted at this in myWPP.
Another thing to consider is that some of these things could be
aerial phenomena. We know very little about the upper levels of
the atmosphere. Who is to say that these regions are not
inhabited by plasma beings we are totally unfamiliar with and
who can bleed in and out of our 5 senses of reality?
Nonetheless, keep in mind that the entire physical universe –
including the dimensions – are all En.ki’s hologram. This means
that even if we see beings bleeding through the dimensions, who
would these beings be? We already have the answers. Beings don’t
“bleed through” from the KHAA.
There are two last things I’d like to mention. I have argued a
few times that in order to find and absorb the information I
have made public, one has to resonate with it, i.e. tune in to
the same frequency/vibration that the material was written—at
that point, and not before that, the person is ready to tackle
this information. With that said, I want to emphasize that what
I’ve been writing about pertains to a certain frequency band and
the knowledge therein, and this is not the end of the journey. I
have only touched the surface of what there is to know. A wise
person once said that when you realize that you actually don’t
know anything, relative to what there is to know, you are on the
Another important thing that I might not have brought up before
is that there is a point when knowledge becomes obsolete for us
humans in this Third Dimension. There is a nexus point where a
person knows enough to be able to break out of the prison. Once
that point is reached, all other knowledge is just more
stimulation of the illusive human mind, which in itself is a
construct and therefore perishable. On the other side – in the
KHAA – we have no use for the knowledge we’re gaining in the
Third Dimension other than as an experience that not everyone
else in the Universe has.
In the KHAA, we operate on an Oversoul level, which is totally
different from how we operate here—we are once again “connected”
to the Divine Feminine, the Goddess Energy, or the “All That
Is.” Let’s say, in the KHAA we can operate without the
limitations we have here—and remember, currently we are used to
functioning in an atom-based universe. In the KHAA, there are no
atoms—only spirit and what spirit can create. The only real
evolution and ascension there is for humanity is when we have
learned how to break out of En.ki’s AIF prison/hologram and act
on it, as described in the WPP. This topic is discussed in
detail in my new e-book,
Super Intelligence and the
Transmutation of Humankind—A Roadmap to the Singularity and
There is no real ascension to the 4th and 5th Dimensions; these
dimensions are within En.ki’s prison and only lead to another
trap. However, there will probably be a descension, if I may
call it that. The 4th and 5th Dimensions are most likely
analogue to what Posthumans will experience once they are in the
Singularity. Don’t forget that the channeled entities who teach
about ascension are mostly hive-communities with a hive
consciousness. Don’t you think that their real purpose is to
steer people towards the Singularity rather than anything else?
Look at the evidence and research it for yourself if you believe
in the ascension agenda. The 4th and 5th Dimensions are most
likely the virtual reality dimensions Posthumans will reach from
being connected with the Singularity. It’s at the point of the
Singularity that the fake “ascension” will most likely occur.
I realize this is sobering information, but I urge the reader to
read my new e-book for a soulution to this dire situation
because there is a way to break out of this hologram before it’s
UNICUS: I agree Wes... I want to thank you again publicly for
all the hard work you have done to educate mankind regarding the
bigger picture and our place in it.
WES PENRE: Thanks Robert. I'm very glad to be your friend and
colleague, too, in addition to the fact that you are extremely