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Exopolitical Paper #4:
What NASA Found on the Moon
by Wes Penre, Sunday, November 4, 2012

1. What Are We Really Seeing in the Skies?

Have you ever asked yourself why we, at least officially, stopped going to the moon? Well, I’m old enough to actually remember when Neil Armstrong put his feet on the moon in 1969 and how thrilled the whole world was over the achievement. Although I was just a kid, I clearly recall how proud people were of being human—we had put a flag on another planet. Humanity had expanded outside the realms of our own planet—we were about to conquer space, for real! Yes, it was not science fiction anymore!

Then what happened? Well, after Apollo 11, more rockets and more people were sent to our satellite, but these projects never got the media exposure even close to that of Apollo 11. Then, all of a sudden, the Apollo project discontinued and we were told that we were no longer going to send people or space rockets to the moon—it was too expensive.

That was it?

Now, in retrospect, over the years the Apollo Program was ongoing, we didn’t learn very much, did we? We read in the papers and heard on the news that the astronauts had brought artifacts, like moon rocks and such other-worldly things back to Earth for study; we learned that the moon had hardly any atmosphere; we saw beautiful pictures of the Earth, supposedly taken by the astronauts from the moon and from outer space; we were told that there is no life on the moon whatsoever from what we could tell, and perhaps we learned a few other, rather insignificant things. But honestly, was that all humanity learned from visiting the moon?

Not at all.

Today, many people understand that much information that was gathered during the Apollo years and earlier (and later!), was kept secret by NASA and the upper echelons of the government. Up until this day, very little of this secret information has leaked out to the public. Fortunately, there have been whistle-blowers (some of them genuine, other being government plants) who have told some of what the astronauts found on the moon. If we are to believe them, nothing is what we have been told—in fact, we can almost turn the information we’ve been receiving from the media around 180°. Indeed, there is too much hidden information that can be found with a little patience to be included in this book—it would require a full volume by itself, but I want to bring up a few highlights for the purpose of the context of this book.

2. Why did the Lunar Missions Stop?

Some people say that Apollo 17, in 1972, was the last Apollo Mission, and it closed down after that, but the story I am now going to tell is actually from a secret Apollo 20 mission, which supposedly never took place. I took that under consideration when I researched the material, but when I looked at the result, I came to a different conclusion. Although I can’t prove 100% that everything is true of what I am now going to convey, it’s most likely that most of it is. Like with all sensitive information, it’s been quite ridiculed and “debunked," but none of that has been very impressive on me, so I have decided to publish the material now, two years after the research was done.

I am not the first one who is handing out this information. Some of it has been mentioned by some researchers, and some of it by others. However, I believe that the full material you are now going to take part of, has not been told this way before, and some of the conclusions are exclusive and based upon my research in general at the time (2011), but especially as it still holds water, from what I can see, I am not going to add or subtract very much from my original research.

We are going to start with discussing to highly controversial subject whether the Apollo moon landing happened at all, or if it was actually all fake and created in a studio in the United States. In spite of all the alarming information that the moon landings did not take place, I don’t agree with that viewpoint. I am aware of that many astronauts have been interviewed by truth-seeking researchers, where the latter have suggested to the astronauts that they actually never put their foot on the moon, or never even were anything near the moon. There are interesting YouTube videos showing some of these interviews (some of them forced upon the astronauts in quite an intrusive way), and the astronauts’ answers were sometimes confusing, to say the least, suggesting to the critical ear that some of the astronauts indeed didn’t seem to know much about their past endeavors on the moon, it doesn’t mean that they were not there.

If we look at it from a bigger perspective, and include a few other things that we know about the Global Elite and the Alien Invader Force (AIF), there is something called “mind control” that certainly could play a big part in the confusion. From have studied mind control on different levels, I think I can say with quite some accuracy, that many, if not all of the astronauts that were interviewed have been subjected to some form of mind control.

Imagine if the astronauts actually saw something spectacular, or found something at least as amazing on the moon, and the Powers That Be (PTB) wanted to keep that a secret, how could they most easily do that? Of course, they would use mind control! The whole Apollo Project with putting a man on the moon before the decade of the 1960s was over would be a very hazardous mission indeed on many levels—not the least if we consider what the astronauts potentially could find on our closest satellite, which the government did not want the public to know about (e.g. it could involve the whole ET issue, which made the whole project a hot potato). The only way to avoid a leakage of such, or similar information from the astronauts involved, whether the leakage would be accidental or intentional, would be to keep the astronauts under mind control. In spite of this (if that is what actually took place), there are conversations between astronauts and the Houston ground control that were later cut out from the tapes that were released to the public. However, it could not be cut out from a live transmission, when millions of people were listening. What Houston did, however (or those in superior positions did), was to distort the transmission fairly instantly when they realized what the conversation was about. On at least a couple of occasions, it included UFO sightings.

I am suggesting that the mind control was done on the astronauts some time before they flew to the moon. I would also suggest that when they returned to Earth, they were having the memories of the astronauts erased! This is one logical explanation to why the astronauts seem so nervous during the spontaneous interviews that were held by alternative investigators. The astronauts simply did not remember much of the details from their trip or trips!

I can’t say for certain that this is what happened, but I find it most likely. This could also be why so many astronauts withdrew from the public arena after their job was done. Some of them, like Buzz Aldrin, became alcoholics, although, in his case, he remembered quite a bit of what happened, and he even went on air to tell his stories, just like I wrote in one of the WPPs[1].  

Anyway, let’s move on to the story I never released…

3. Were the Apollo Missions Really Fake or was Something Else Going on?

Figure 1. A logo for Stanley Kubrick's, "2001 -- A Space Odyssey", released in 1968

The Moon has been subjected to a lot of pondering and conspiracy theories—everything from having been transported here by an extraterrestrial race with the purpose to observe us, to being the base of holographic manipulation of us here on Earth by a reptilian species from the lower 4th dimension.[2] The translator of the Sumerian cuneiform, Zecharia Sitchin, says that the moon was not originally a satellite to Earth, but that of Tiamat, a large planet which used to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, but was destroyed in a collision with one of Nibiru’s moons in an ancient past. A part of Tiamat then became Earth.[3] The Pleiadians, channeled by Barbara Marciniak, state that the moon is artificial, and thus not a natural planetary body.[4]

As we can see, there are a lot of theories in circulation. Later in this chapter we are going to explore what the moon actually is and how it potentially came into orbit, but first there is something else I would like to bring up. What did NASA find on the moon on their last official Apollo trip to the moon?

On July 26, 1971, Apollo 15 was launched from the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral, and it ended on August 7, about two weeks later. NASA was at the time calling it the most successful manned Apollo Mission so far, with Commander David Scott and Lunar Module Pilot James Irwin spending 3 days on the moon, including 18 ½ hours outside the spacecraft. Scott and Irwin were the seventh and eight humans, respectively (and officially), who walked the moon.

Four days after leaving Florida, the spacecraft passed behind the far side of the moon, continued in orbit to the near side and landed in Hadley-Apennine, on the eastern edge of Mare Imbrium, called “Marsh of Decay”. Here Scott and Irwin spent a lot of time outside the craft, collecting moon rocks, which were later carefully studied on Earth.

From a public point of view, these were the highlights of the mission. Apollo 15 then returned safely to Earth with all the three astronauts (Alfred Warden was the Commander of the Module, but never walked on the moon himself).

This trip would have gone to history as just another (although, apparently the most successful) lunar trip, and been more or less forgotten by everybody, if it wasn’t for one rumor that kept imposing on the trip, that something was found that was not officially filmed, and not mentioned to the public.

There were two more official Apollo Missions after number 15, and Apollo 17 was the last one, so we’re told. However, there is evidence that the Apollo Mission continued well after that, and in reality, Apollo 20 would have been the last one, launched in secret in August, 1976.

The question is, if the planned Apollo Missions 18-20 actually took place in spite of the fact that they were officially cancelled (and it’s very likely), why did they become so secret? It will become quite understandable when we know what Apollo 20’s mission actually was, and what the crew supposedly accomplished! What they seem to have found on the moon is nothing less but revolutionary!

However, before we go into this in details, let us touch another subject that has confused a lot of people.

Did the Apollo Missions really take place at all, or were the footage we saw from the moon, supposed to have been taken live from the different moon trips, actually shot beforehand in a studio by one of our all times best film producer? And even worse—did man walk on the moon at all, or is it all part of the biggest scam and cover-up in the history of mankind?

There are actually people who claim that the moon missions did never take place at all. It may sound like lunacy (no pun intended) to the common person, but those who are insisting at least have some reason to do so. However, are the correct? Well, let’s ponder the following story, and the readers can make up their own mind. At the end of the story, I will let you know my own viewpoint on it, and why I think what I do (it may still differ from your own conclusions, which of course is totally in order).

There is evidence that Stanley Kubrick created a Moon landscape in a studio here on Earth that was so well constructed that up to this date the majority of the population can't tell a difference even if it was pointed out to them on a TV or movie screen. So how do these two events, the real moon landings and Kubrick's fabricated ones, fit together to perhaps create a bigger picture?

Figure 2. The late controversial filmmaker Stanley Kubrick.

Most of us know that Stanley Kubrick (1928-1999) made the incredibly beautiful movie "2001 -- A Space Odyssey" after Arthur C. Clarke's excellent novel with the same. The conspiracy theory goes that Kubrick was financed by the Global Elite to make the 2001 movie, and he got astronomical funds for it. It became a great blockbuster, so the film industry got more back than they'd ever expected. That probably created some relief to the financers, as no one before Kubrick had ever gotten such huge funds to make a movie. It cost an astronomical amount.

How come that this young, ambitious filmmaker got all this money to use on something that the film company actually thought was too abstract to reach a wide audience?

Well, here is how the story goes. The people behind the project, on a very high level, had plans for young Stanley. They saw his genius and his enormous talent, and the timing was perfect. The movie was finished and published in 1968, in the middle of the Apollo Program. JFK had promised the American people to put a man on the Moon before 1970, so Lyndon Johnson had his feet to the fire with less than two years to go. NASA was not nearly ready to put a man on the Moon at that time, although they were working on it furiously. LBJ needed a back-up plan, and this is where Kubrick comes into the picture.

Kubrick was an enormously driven visionary and filmmaker. His genius and his belief that art is one of the most important things in existence made him unstoppable—he was being used to give him what he wanted—free hands.

So, one day he was approached by government people (and those from behind the scenes—the classical “men with dark suits and sunglasses”) whom asked Kubrick if he could help them with the Apollo Project. They tried to push Kubrick's buttons, saying it was a patriotic thing to do and that his assistance would really help the country. However, they didn't know Kubrick too well, because the country was not his biggest concern; it was his art. That's where his buttons were...

So what was it that they wanted him to do?

They wanted him to create a perfect moon landscape in a giant studio, where they would create a fake moon landing with actors and real astronauts. Everything would be rigorously rehearsed so that the public wouldn't be able to tell the difference. This way, Kubrick was told, NASA could show the fake movies to the public in case the Apollo Project didn't happen before 1970. They said to Kubrick that not only had JFK promised that the moon landings would happen—it was also a race against the Soviets. America had to prove they could do it—it was a matter of prestige and technology show-off.

Initially, Kubrick was not very keen on doing this—he thought that we shouldn't lie to the American public—it was not right. The government representatives, however, told Kubrick that the fake films would only be shown to the people if the moon landings didn't happen on time, which they probably would.

They offered Kubrick a lot of money to do it, but the filmmaker was torn and asked if he could think about it. When he came back with an answer, he said he'd do it, but on two conditions: 1. he would get as much funding as he needed for any and all future films we was making, and 2. He would get free hands and always be approved to make whatever movie he wished to—he would never be rejected because of his ideas. He added that if NASA and the Government were desperate, he was the only person who could do this project—no one else knew how to.

NASA and the Government were well aware of this, but the conditions Kubrick presented sounded pretty unreasonable and could have severe implications. They all knew that Kubrick was "radical" and could be a potential threat if they gave him free hands, so first they said no, only to agree later. It was not so much about the funding—there was plenty of money in hidden, black funds, and whatever Kubrick needed was like a drop in the ocean anyway. It was more what Kubrick would release in the future that was the problem. However, if worse came to worse, they were well capable of arranging an "accident", or inducing a heart attack, if needed. So yes, the two parties had an agreement!

Stanley worked day and night on this project, because he was on a time schedule. Still, the finished work proved to be impeccable. And why wouldn't it? Stanley was a perfectionist.

The conspiracy theories go that when the moon landscape was successfully created, Kubrick's filmmaking genius came into play, and they took different shots of different scenarios they could show us, the people, if things would go wrong with the real Apollo Project[5].

Once done, Kubrick went on with his business, and NASA with theirs. Kubrick made a lot of movies during his career, and indeed, many of them were quite revealing in a way that created some anxiety within the Secret Government. In the end, they may have actually used stellar technology to eliminate Kubrick in 1999, shortly after he released "Eyes Wide Shut", starring Tom Cruise and Nichole Kidman. This film exposed the Global Elite and their secret sex magick and ritual meetings within secret societies on an Elite level, where only prominent members were invited. Kubrick still only exposed the “soft version” of these otherwise horrendous rituals, but I’m sure that one or two Elite members choked on their morning coffee when they saw the result. However, as it usually goes, the cause of Kubrick's untimely death is still up for debate as of this writing.

Figure 3. A scene from the movie "Eyes Wide Shut" by Stanley Kubrick. Was this the movie which got him killed?
Or did he actually die
from natural causes? To be determined...

In 1969, Neil Armstrong became the first man on the moon, according to NASA, and there is a lot of classic footage from the ground-breaking event. Everybody was happy, except perhaps the Soviets and some hippies who thought the Government spent way too much money on the Apollo Project[6]. These protests were heard in high places, though, and more and more people (according to the official version) agreed with the hippies. Why spend so much money on space programs when people are starving on our own planet and we have so many unresolved issues?

Of course, all these concerns could very well have been planted by the Government themselves to put an end to the space program. After all, the final cost for the Apollo project was reported to Congress as $25.4 billion in 1973[7]. Apollo 17 was the last manned mission in December, 1972.

Before we go into that, let's ask ourselves a question: was the costs really the main reason why the Apollo programs stopped suddenly? Yes, they were expensive, but since the 1970s, we haven't been to the moon at all, again according to official sources like NASA, the Government and the Media parrots. After all, the space programs did not end with the Apollo Project, but what puzzles me, and I’m sure many others as well, is the fact that all of a sudden it seemed like the moon was not interesting at all anymore. Attention started being put elsewhere.

Over time, and especially since the Internet became a factor, people have gotten more and more suspicious about the Apollo Missions, and in particular "the-first-man-on-the-moon" case. Did Armstrong really walk on the moon in 1969? People started seeing through Kubrick's fake films and NASA's dub-in comments from Houston Ground Zero. There were discrepancies in Kubrick's film, they said, and they could show evidence that this was the case[8].

Other journalists went as far as interviewing the astronauts face to face and accuse them of lying and insisted for them to tell the public the truth about the moon landings. This was then posted on YouTube in a documentary called, "Astronauts Gone Wild"[9].

Something needed to be done to prevent the public from knowing the truth. A psy-op[10] needed to be instigated. There are a number of different ways to do that, but one of the most effective ways to do it is to tell the truth and then say it was a lie, or a joke, or present the truth in a movie, calling it “science fiction”. However, in this case, the latter was too little too late. So, what the Global Elite seemingly did was to produce another documentary called, "Moon Landing A Fake Or Fact?"[11],where they told the whole story about Kubrick and NASA and the deal they made. Interviewed in the documentary were leading Global Elite members like Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeldt, Alexander Haig, and many other familiar faces, whom all admitted to that the conspiracy theory was true! Even Kubrick’s wife was interviewed. What a glorious moment for all conspiracy theorists--they were right, and amazingly enough—the Globalists admitted to it!

However, for you who haven't watched it yet—there’s a twist to all this! When the audience thinks the documentary is over, they start showing "outtakes" from the film. Here they reveal that the people interviewed were reading from scripts, and that the whole interview was staged![12] The moral of the story? "See how easy it is to fool people!" By releasing a documentary like that, they are further mudding the waters and people get even more confused. At the end, Kissinger et al don't tell us what is true or not, but leave us hanging so we can argue and speculate even more without getting any closer to the truth. The Global Elite wanted people to believe that anyone could be tricked to believe whatever they are told, and business goes on as usual.

Many who stumble upon something like Hufschmid's article and start researching it, sooner or later will also stumble upon "Moon Landing A Fake Or Fact?" and thereafter think that conspiracy theorists are quite a crazy bunch.

Of course, not everybody gets fooled! When people like Kissinger et al come out in the open like this, it's a Big Red Flag! Something is definitely wrong with that picture. 

We should also be aware of that there are theories that man was on the moon long before the Apollo Mission, and that Apollo was just a cover up to get people used to the idea that we are capable of space travel. These theories are outside the scope of this book, so for now, let's stay with the Apollo Program.

Here is my own theory of what happened with the manned moon landings.

The first part of the story is true. Kubrick was contacted and the deal was made—the fake filming in the studio really happened. However, it was not meant to be used for the purpose Kubrick was told. NASA already knew they could put as many men on the moon before the end of the decade—that was not the problem.

There are indications which we will bring up and look into more later in this paper that it could very well be that we had been to the moon much earlier and found something astonishing there, which was never made public. NASA wanted to send an expedition to the moon, so they could further investigate what was there. Hence, they needed a mix of real and fake photos and live videos, because they knew beforehand that the astronauts would find and see things that would be on camera, but not meant for public view. This is where Kubrick's film clips came in, so they could compensate for that.

Now the question is, did Armstrong and others who followed find what NASA was looking for on the moon? There is some evidence that they did, but what was it? This, too, has been brought to public, as we shall see. Also, some reports on UFOs seen by astronauts when they went to the Moon are now in public domain.[13]

My own take on this is therefore that man actually went to the moon as scheduled, but many of the films and pictures from the Apollo missions are fake to cover up what the astronauts actually saw and experienced. In fact, I think they were on the moon more often than we are told, until we were eventually "kicked out". Someone there did not want us to interfere with them. But who were they?

When the truth about Kubrick’s involvement in all this started coming out because of a few investigative reporters, Henry Kissinger and others, who were personally involved in this whole project and still happened to be alive, had to safe their own backs and they did it very cleverly. They produced the movie, “Astronauts Gone Wild”, which told the truth almost to the minute, but left out what they actually found on the moon.

Now, here comes the clever part! When the movie was over, it showed the cast on a black screen as usual, so people would think the film was over, The Elitists, who were interviewed in the movie (such as Kissinger and Alexander Haig), knew very well that many conspiracy “theorists” would at that point already be overly excited and turn off the video, then starting to spread the message all over the Internet that the moon landings were fake. This was exactly per the plan!

For a while, people who read the websites of different truth-seekers, will then believe that the truth-seekers were right all the time and glorify them. However, what these truth-seekers missed was that after the cast was shown on the screen, there were “outtake clips”, showing the Elitists reading from scripts exactly what they had talked about in the video. Some of these famous people even laughed and said something to the effect that “I had such a hard time remembering my script!” Also, the spouse of the then deceased Kubrick, was filmed rehearsing her part of the script.

Just as anticipated, many truth-seekers stepped right into the trap! They announced the moon landings as being fake, but soon enough others, who happened to watch the video beyond where the cast was shown, then debunked the truth-seekers, showing it was all a script and pure science fiction, created by the same Elitists the truth-seekers had accused as being the people involved in the fake moon landings cover-up. In an instance, many truth-seekers were debunked and lost their credibility, at least to a certain degree. The moral of this film, said the debunkers, was basically that the Elitists wanted to show the public how easy it is to come to wrong conclusions and to be fooled.

What most people missed was the final twist! All the above is true, but what about if in fact Kubrick’s and the Elitists involvement in using fake footage from the moon landings is actually true, but by twisting and turning the story like Kissinger and others did, it purposely confused the matter even more, and it looked like the whole story was made up when it wasn’t. I think it was a brilliant move of the Globalists, and moreover, it worked!

So, to conclude: the way I see it is that Kubrick was actually involved in all this, but the moon landings did take place, although there was a much more advanced moon program “running in the background”, so to speak, not mentioned to the public. Hence, much of the footage we were shown from space and from the moon was Kubrick’s creation. Instead, the astronauts were concentrating on Above Top Secret programs that only a few had access to. The astronauts themselves were just puppets in the game and did not have the security clearance required for such missions, so therefore, their memories of what they experienced in space and on the moon was erased.

If you think this is farfetched, please think again. Today, there are soldiers, like Green Berets and others, who are sent out on Top Secret, and above Top Secret mission, often involving ETs, and afterwards their memories are wiped out. Some of these soldiers are now starting to remember some of the horrors they were experiencing, and nightmares become reality—they realize that their horror dreams from their missions are actually true! Some of these “Super Soldiers” have been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan at Project Camelot.[14]

We can imagine that this whole subject is a hot potato if the Global Elite members themselves are making a movie for the public, which seems to reveal disinformation regarding their whereabouts, when in fact they are spreading even more disinformation. This reason alone should get anyone interested in this subject.

4. Ret. Col. From Apollo 20 Mission: "This Is What We Found On the Moon.”

Colonel William Rutledge is an 80+ years old man who lives in Rwanda, former employed by Bell Laboratories, NASA, and the USAF. He says he has worked on at least two moon missions, the failed Apollo 19, and Apollo 20. He says the Apollo 20 mission was actually launched in 1976 from Vandenberg Air Force Base.

Both of these missions were what Rutledge calls "classified joint Space Missions" and were collaborations between the U.S. and the Soviets.[15] We cannot read about these two missions anywhere in NASA's archives, and if this is true (and it certainly looks like it is, as we shall see), it's for good reasons. What these two joint missions found was not something they could reveal to the public—nothing of it. And they knew before they launched that they were going to find something remarkable on the Moon—thus the secrecy already from the beginning.

Figure 4. Alien spacecraft, allegedly found on the Moon by the Apollo 15 crew.

The purpose of both these missions was to investigate a large object on the back side of the Moon, in the Delporte-Izsak Region, which is supposed to have been discovered and photographed by the Apollo 15 crew.[16] Allegedly, this was a very large craft which seems to have crashed on the moon’s surface in ancient times.

The next two pictures (figures 5 and 6) show the location where they found the craft.

Figure 5. The crashed spaceship on the Moon and a map of its location.

Figure 6. A broader view of the location around the spaceship.

As the reader may already have figured out, if this is a spacecraft, it’s huge. Looking at figure 6, where the ship is shown from a distance, we can see the size better, compared to the environment (enlarge the image).

The Ramistrip.com website actually measured the alien ship, and they have released an imagine showing its real size, and it's quite mind-blowing—it’s like huge like a Noah’s Ark.

Figure 7. The size of the ship spaceship.

However, what looks like craters from the middle part toward the left in the picture appear like holes in a giant rock when hit from space by space rocks. That was my first impression when I looked at these pictures, but what is it that’s glued to the “rock” on top of this alleged craft, above the “Eiffel Tower”? That part certainly doesn’t look like something normally attached to a regular rock. Interesting to mention here is that the Alien Invader Force uses uses hollowed out craft, created from asteroids and similar.

Since April 2007, Col. Rutledge has been disclosing information and spread a lot of video and photographic material on YouTube about the presumed Apollo 20 space mission. His user name on YouTube used to be “retiredafb”, but there is only one video published there at this moment. He has been harassed and his info tampered with, and even the websites he tried to maintain have been shut down. The quite famous former NASA employee Richard C. Hoagland has popularized this story by addressing this encounter on this website, http://www.enterprisemission.com/.

The next two questions, if this really is a spacecraft, would be: what was inside of it? Was someone able to get inside of this monstrous construction? As it appears, we do have the answers to them!

5. Mona Lisa on the Moon

Col. Rutledge claims that Apollo 20, which also carried the Soviet cosmonaut, Alexey Leonov, he says, landed a Soviet Lunar module near the spaceship, left their own craft, which must have looked like an ant in comparison to the alien ship.

Figure 7. Soviet cosmonaut, Alexey Leonov.

The story doesn’t tell what kind of precautions the crew took before they let Leonov and Rutledge proceed, away from the Earth module, but on the other hand, there weren’t much precautions they could have taken, with probably only two people onboard the module. After all, they had the pictures from Apollo 15, apparently, and the ship obviously hadn’t moved one inch since then, which indicated that it was probably abandoned.

The decision must have been that Leonov and Rutledge proceeded together, leaving the module unmanned, but probably close to the ship, ready to return to it as soon as possible if something went really awry.

The story doesn’t tell, either, how they managed to get into the ship, but somehow they did. I am certain that NASA has photos or videos with better resolution than the ones we have at our convenience, and in that case they may have known exactly where the entrance was, and how to most likely enter the ship. I am sure that failure to do so was taken well into consideration, and perhaps not many NASA people really thought Leonov and Rutledge would succeed.

Somehow, the astronaut and the cosmonaut got into the ship. I can only imagine the eerie feeling that must have followed going into a seemingly abandoned ship on an alien world, having no idea what they were going to find. It would require great courage to do this without an entire crew members following them, but unfortunately, that was out of the question.

What the two crew members found inside the “ark” was way beyond what anyone could have expected. Col. Rutledge explains (I apologize beforehand to the readers for the sometimes bad English in the quoted sections. The person who interviewed William Rutledge is Italian. His name is Luca Scantamburlo, and he admits to that he had some problems with typing up the transcript. The following is an excerpt from a complete interview, which is published later on in this chapter.):

We went inside the big spaceship, also into a triangular one. The major parts of the exploration was; it was a mother ship, very old, who crossed the universe at least [a] milliard[17] of years ago (1.5 estimated). There were many signs of biology inside, old remains of a vegetation in a “motor” section, special triangular rocks who emitted “tears” of a yellow liquid which has some special medical properties, and of course signs of extra solar creatures. We found remains of little bodies (10cm) living in a network of glass tubes all along the ship, but the major discovery was two bodies, one intact.

The “City” was named on Earth and scheduled as station one, but it appeared to be a real space garbage, full of scrap, gold parts, only one construction seemed intact (we named it the Cathedral). We made shots of pieces of metal, of every part wearing calligraphy, exposed to the sun. The “City” seem to be as old as the ship, but it is a very tiny part. On the rover video, the telephotolens make the artifacts greater.

I don’t remember who named the girl, Leonov or me — was the intact EBE. Humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized, haired, six fingers (we guess that mathematics are based on a dozen). Function; pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes, we had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostril. Leonov unfixed the eyes device (you’ll see that in the video). concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body. Some parts of the body were in unusual good condition, (hair) and the skin was protected by a thin transparent protection layer. As we told to mission control, condition seemed not dead not alive. We had no medical background or experience, but Leonov and I used a test, we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by surgeon (Mission Control meds) was positive. That’s another story. Some parts could be unbelievable now, I prefer tell the whole story when other videos will be online. This experience has been filmed in the LM (Lunar Module, editor’s note). We found a second body, destroyed, we brought the head on board. Color of the skin was blue gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some strange details above the eyes and the front, a strap around the head, wearing no inscription. The “cockpit” was full of calligraphy and formed of long semi hexagonal tubes. She is on Earth and she is not dead, but I prefer to post other videos before telling what happened after.[18]

Here follows two videos that were filmed in the Lunar Module, and the man we see touching the alien female, whom Leonov or Rutledge called “Mona Lisa”,  is supposedly Leonov (I strongly suggest you watch these quite stunning videos before you continue reading past this point.) The City on the Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQXssakBlw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgFa0PmvSOM, and Dead Alien on the Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q765nzHoag .

Rutledge and Leonov also managed to recover some of the writing they found inside the ship and photographed it (figure 8).

Figure 8. Photos of writing found inside the ship.

We also have two videos of the flyover by Apollo 15 crew, who were the ones who first found the ship. In the first video we can clearly see the ship about 3'35” into the video. In the second video, you can see it pretty much from the beginning: http://wespenre.com/books/Book2/Multimedia/Apollo_20/alienspaceshiponthemoonflyoverbeforelandingapollo20.avi, and http://wespenre.com/books/Book2/Multimedia/Apollo_20/alienspaceshiponthemoonapplo20.avi.   

In 2007 there was a big frenzy on the Internet regarding Col. Rutledge's information, and people discussed it back and forth; was it all a hoax? Was it disinformation? Maybe a cover up for something else? Did an involved party let information out that was partly true and partly false with the purpose of starting this debate in order to pressure certain others to disclose the truth of the matter?

In spite of all the twists and turns in the debate, it came back to where it started—there was too many clues indicating that it’s not a hoax, and that these events actually took place.

There is also some evidence that Alexei Leonov was part of the US/Soviet joint space mission. In fig. 9 we can clearly see when Leonov with a US/Soviet flag. This corresponds very well with a picture Luca Scanbamburlo manage to get from USSR-AIRSPACE.COM and placed on his page (fig. 10). These two pictures confirm Col. Rutledge’s story quite well.

Figure 10. The American and Soviet flags of the Apollo Soyuz Test Project,

In addition, Rutledge also posted a video of the lift-off of Apollo Saturn V, which was its complete name, online back in 2007 (fig. 11). Unfortunately, I don’t have access to the video itself.[19]

Figure 11. Frame from the footage, "APOLLO 20 Legacy liftoff" of Apollo 20 Saturn V,
added on YouTube by "retiredafb" on April 9,

Interesting is also something else Apollo 15 supposedly photographed on the Moon. They found ruins of something they couldn't explain what it was. The Apollo crew ended up calling a part of it "The Cathedral", although it wasn't a cathedral at all. Researchers here on Earth, who saw the following video after the fact, called it "The City".

Personally, I have learnt that it allegedly is something else; it's a "transmitter". Back in 2011, when I first researched this whole part of the first chapter, I was in almost daily contact with Life Physics Group California (LPG-C), which was a group of seven retired quantum physicists, who in their retired years were looking into the extraterrestrial (ET) presence on our planet. This group is now dissolved, but the seven members are still working together on similar projects, but more behind the scenes for now.

LPG-C was more than an exopolitical[20] group—they had real ET contacts. To the readers who are interested, there are essays, which I posted on website, written by this group, which more closely tell the readers about what they see as their mission.[21]

When I showed Dr. A.R. Bordon, the head scientist of this group, the picture of “The City” (see video link below), he immediately knew what it was from his contact with the AIF. He told me that a similar transmitter is located in the African jungle, and that it is some kind of transmitter, or communication device. This is all he told he at the time, but it means that if it is correct, this is evidence that the AIF has (or at least had in the past), a base on the moon. However, “The City” is totally unrelated to the Mona Lisa story, according to Dr. Bordon, who said that Mona Lisa belongs to the “Mongolian species”, which does not refer to the human Mongolian race.

Watch the following video clip from Apollo 20. This construction is really there on the moon—it’s not a hoax, http://wespenre.com/books/Book2/Multimedia/Apollo_20/MoonCityApollo20.avi.

6. The William Rutledge Interview

Col. William Rutledge was playing with fire when he released this material—understandably so if the information is true, and he was racing against time to get the material out before NASA, the NSA, CIA etc., started taking counter-actions in serious attempt to debunk and discredit him, which they did, after the initial publication of this material. Rutledge was afraid they would take his usernames, copy his material, and insert disinformation to convince the researcher that this is a hoax.

Living in Rwanda, this elderly man with severe arthritis in his fingers, still made himself available for some email interviews (but mostly YouTube interviews, where he used his YouTube email program to answer questions). I don't know how many interviews he gave before he "disappeared", but one which is still available is Luca Scanbamburlo's correspondence with the colonel.[22] This one is important, because Rutledge's knowledge gives a lot of credibility to this story. Therefore, I am republishing it here in full. The foreword is written by Mr. Scanbamburlo:


In the following interview granted by William Rutledge who lives now in Africa, I have corrected (where I could) the orthographical mistakes that there were in the answers (e.g. I put the right capital letters and the right apostrophes), but I did not change the syntactical construction of the sentences made by William Rutledge. Where I was not able to understand his words, I put some dots between square brackets.

W. Rutledge told me he is now an old man with some problems to the his articulations; moreover, William explained to me that he’s always nervous when he writes. That’s why on YouTube you can find some mistakes in his comments (user name: retiredafb) posted with the footages. Anyway, here you are some words written by him for the foreword to the following interview:

“I don’t use English since 1990 but Kinyarwanda and French, and I write quickly, sometimes letters are missing because I’m busy writing the next one, or it is another on the keyboard which is used, but that’s a detail…”


1) L.S. First of all I want to thank you for your time and availability. It means a lot for me and, I guess, for all the people around the world, very curious about what it is going on YouTube after the release of your amazing video footages and information on the presumed “Apollo 20” space mission. Now we can begin our interview. Because of my professional activity, I will start from a skeptical point of view. So please, I kindly ask you to understand it. You will have the space to answer and for explaining your reasons. 

What is your name? How old are you and are you an American citizen? Sometimes your written English contains some orthographical mistakes… Are you forgetting your language rules (e.g., you wrote “maicroscope” instead of “microscope”)? Somebody on the Web said you do not seem (considering your writings) an American-English native land… 

W.R. I'm not offended, I like to answer to skeptics, you cannot imagine what kind of messages I receive. That’s my name, William Rutledge, no Standford Rutledge, it's another one. Born in 1930 in Belgium, American citizen, I know about mistakes, I'm writing too fast with arthrose problems and I'm always nervous when I'm writing, it's like trying to contain a flow of water. I'm not accustomed to speak in English anymore since 1990. I have learned Kinyarwanda and use French, sometimes German because Rwanda is a former Belgium-German colony. 

2) L.S. How long have you been living in Rwanda and why did you move over there? 

W.R. It 's a woman who brought me to Rwanda, maybe I was searching for somebody like one person who shared my life before. Personally speaking, I have always been sensible to Africa born women. (Buzz Aldrin was also sensible, he was the only astronaut participating in a walk after martin Luther King's death, it’s not a well known story). I established myself with a new identity in Kigali in 1990, streets have no names here. I stayed in Nyiamirambo quarter till 1994, war pushed me to the north west of the country, near the Congo Kinshasa frontier. Rwandan authorities do not know my past, my friends do. 

3)L.S. Can you tell me anything about your life? Where are you from? Where did you study ? 

W.R. I've written on this on my others answers, Avro, Chance Vought, just consider that USAF uses every person who can bring skills, white, black, woman, every citizen. It was different with NASA, all astronauts were West Point students, only Alan Bean was an artist, Armstrong was a philosopher and Aldrin a spiritual man. 

4) L.S. How did you become an astronaut with NASA (I suppose) in the ‘70s? 

W.R. NASA didn't employ me, USAF did, I had worked on the study of foreign technology, RUSSIAN only, study about the N1 project, AJAX plane project and the Mig Foxbat 25. I had some skills for using computer navigation and was a volunteer for the MOL-Gemini project. USAF recalled that, I have been chosen later for Apollo 20 because I was one of the rare pilot who didn't believe in God (it has changed since 1990) but it was a criterion in 1976. It was not the status of the NASA astronauts. Not believing in God made the difference. That's all. 

5) L.S. Can you prove who you are with some photos or documents of yours, taken during the training by NASA or even before, during your work at the Bell Laboratories? Can you send them to me as attachments, for a publication? 

W.R. Yes, I will put them online, but I will focus on Leonov, to end hoax controversy.

6) L.S. When and above all why did you decide to disclose these information about classified space missions and is there anybody who is protecting you? 

W.R. It's the announcement of "the wonder of it all" maybe, and 2012 is coming fast. I also think that UFOs will appear more often starting from September 2007. A lot of people died around me in Rwanda, and I have more time to take care of this. About protection, please understand it's hard to speak of my armoury. 

7) L.S. After the “Apollo 20” mission, taken place in August 1976 according to the information you have provided, what did you do and when did you leave the U.S.A. ? 

W.R. After Apollo 20, several things happened, I was not aware of how the material collected would be used. I thought Space Shuttle was a bad idea, I’ve worked on the KH 11 project before retiring. 

8) L.S. In your writings provided on YouTube you mentioned the members of the “Apollo 20” crew: among them there is the former Soviet cosmonaut, Alexei Leonov. I remember he is still alive. Does he know what you are doing on the Web? Did you talk with him before April 2007 and if the answer is no, aren’t you afraid about what he could do or tell? 

W.R. Leonov is not aware of all this , I cannot contact him, contacts were completely lost in 1982-1984, I went to the Ural in 1995 or 1994, can't recall, responding to an invitation, but it was a mess here, I crossed Moscow when tanks were shooting the Russian parliament. Cant' imagine his reaction. If he discovers the videos without preparation, he can confirm or leave at once. If he is warned, and prepared, he can deny. 

9) L.S. A question about the dialogues subtitles on the “spaceship footage”: did you make them or did somebody else make them? There are some mistakes (e.g., the personal pronoun is “I”, with the capital letter, not “i” as there is written). What about the original dialogues? Were there in the footage? Did you have problems with the codecs during the transfer? 

W.R. Yes, plenty of problems, subtitles are made just before transfer, I have to work with the distance, I'll be back in Rwanda in July. I asked to put the flyover very quickly, they made the subtitles in one hour, buried instead of burried, aperture to 1.8 is not at the right place, there are mistakes but is does not shock me. The Apollo 11 mention at the beginning of the film surprised me, it is on the original film, one internaut signaled that to me. The films are not the first generation, some of them were copied in 1982 I'm sure of this, some have a blue background from the end of the 70's. 

10) L.S. There are in the dialogues between the astronauts and the Mission Control, some expressions that I do not understand: for instance, “CSM”, “DSKY” and “Vandenberg Twenty”. I could think that “DSKY” is about the position on the Moon (close to the Izsak crater) and that the “Vandenberg Twenty” is about the Mission Control, located by the Vandeberg Air Force Base, in California. Can you explain them? 

W.R. CSM is Command Service Module, DSKY was the computer "display keyboard", we used many acronyms. AGC is Apollo Guidance Computer, same that DSKY, but located in the Apollo spacecraft and coupled with a telescope ( […] on the LM). 

In some videos, the first image you see is the DSKY panel with lines prog indicates the program running verb and noun verb indicates what the DSKY has to do and show. Before filming I had to enter verb 15 (display MET, mission elapsed time, or hours minutes seconds since lift-off, then noun 65 for displaying on there rows, hours on the first line minutes on the second, and seconds/tens of seconds on the third line). Then in every movie we put the date on the beginning of the shot, MET, Mission Elapsed Time, hours since lift-off. In the flyover movie, the computer indicates 144 hours if I remember. 

Capcom (CC) is the function of the unique officer charged of transmission to astronauts. He gathers all information and transmit them to the astronauts, news from the ground, instructions for the corrections, wake up calls, three persons relay. 

The syntax was "Vandenberg" calling Vandenberg next "twenty" a call from twenty. Inverted when starting from Earth: Capcom- Twenty or sometimes EEcom- Twenty Guido - Twenty when we had a special work to do, docking, correction. When undocking was made the communications were different. Vandenberg Constellation (name of the Apollo spacecraft); Vandenberg Phoenix (name of the LM). The Apollo 19 Apollo spacecraft was Endymion and Artemis was the Lunar Module name. 

11) L.S. I would like to know something more about the preparation of the “Apollo 20” mission. From where and when the Saturn rocket was launched and how many people were involved in that classified mission. Can you do some names? 

W.R. 300 people were involved on the preparation, but more other witnesses in Vandenberg. It was launched from this AFB. More witnesses, yes, many people saw departures in the sky, cameras were forbidden all around the Vandenberg site, but today a lot of Space spotters film every launch of Delta rockets, from towns. Other people saw this launch but not knowing it was a Saturn 5. One internaut viewing the launch video says this launch is a Saturn 1B. If today, with all available information, somebody makes such a mistake, you can image how it was in 1976. The preparation was long, subject of cancellations, new starts. Russians had the first information since 1966, I don't know what was their source. 

12) L.S. Can you tell me anything about the Russian collaboration to “Apollo 20”? 

W.R. James Chipman Fletcher for USA and Valentin Alexeiev for Russia, Werner Von Braun was one of the happy viewer. Capcom were Charles Peter Conrad and James Irwin. 

13) L.S. Tell me something about the “Apollo 18” and the “Apollo 19” missions; specially about the last one and its failure. Was it a classified mission with the same goal of the “Apollo 20”? Tell me about your ex girlfriend, Stephanie Ellis, “first American woman in Space” according to what you wrote to me in a former letter. The official space history does not include her as astronaut… 

W.R. Apollo 18 was the Apollo-Soyuz project, the honeymoon before a moon landing mission, it was presented as a simple "shaking hands " mission in 1975. Apollo 19 and 20 were hazardous missions. On long duration flight the helium pressure was too high on the LEM, a security disk had to burst if pressure was going high, but motor was unusable after. So it was changed on Apollo 19 and 20, but not tested in Space before. It was ok, but… in the paper. However, we got no problem with it. It was a long mission, 7 days scheduled on the Moon, every ray of light was used till ascent. 

Apollo 19 had a loss of telemetry, a brutal end of mission without data. Now the truth is unknown but it seems that it was a natural phenomenon, a collision with a "quasi-satellite ", like Cruithne, or a meteor (the probability is higher I think). The goal was the same, the landing site was the same, the exploration program was different, they had a big job to do with the rover, exploring the roof of the ship by climbing on the "Monaco hill", (I'll have to put a lunar map online). NO American astronaut is listes, I discovered since may that many people find many William Rultledge in NASA. I can be found in the list of the Test pilots of Chance Vought, on the consultant list of the James Forrestal Center, I was involved in fluid mechanics. My boss was Bogdanoff (nothing in common with the Bogdanoff scientists). 

Stephanie Ellis was born in Abidjan (Ivory Coast) in 1946, arrived in America at the age of 7 months. She was a LM specialist, she worked with Grumman Bethpage for new implementations on the navigation system of the LM (Note that LM15 was officially destructed by Grumman). She contributed to debug the Luminary program, who was never bug free. Apollo 19 and 20 had serious problems with docking and rendez-vous. Her technical knowledge was as deep as Roger Chaffee. She was a wonderful and funny person. I have some pictures of her in the LEM and Ingress 16 mm footage. I'll not show the other members of the crew. 

Russian collaborations; I don't know how, but Russian were informed of the presence of a ship on the far side. Luna 15 in July 1969 crashed just at the South of the nose of the ship. It was a probe similar to Ranger or Lunar Orbiter. They provided maps, precise charts of this area. The center of decision was located in the Ural, in the town of Sverdlovsk. The chief of the program was professor Valentin Alekseiev, who became later president of the academy of science in Ural. Leonov was chosen because of his popularity in the communist leading staff, and secondary only because he was on Apollo-Soyuz. In 1994, I met again Valentin Alekseiev in Ural, Yekaterinburg, and he had a model of the spaceship made of malachite with incrustations of gold on his desk. 

I could tell you 100 stories about how Russians wanted to impress us. For example, when I came to the Academy of the Ural for the first time, my feet sticked on the ground, they had put varnish on the floor, not dried, for showing us new offices, they did all this "the Russian way", quickly, with quantity, not completely ready. 

14) L.S. Is there anybody in U.S.A., Russia or in Europe that can confirm your story? And are you not afraid that somebody can threaten your friends or relatives? 

W.R. In USA, honestly I don't know who is living now. Conrad died a strange way I think, his death was awful. Irwin is dead, von Braun also I think. James Fletcher. Leona Marietta Snyder is alive and communicates and support me in this job. In Russia, Valentin Alekseiev, and Alexei Leonov. Leonov is retired, I'm not sure of this but his health is a problem.

About security, no problem as far I live in Rwanda, I only have problem now in Europe, my family is dead. I went to Rwanda in 1990, and stayed during 3 wars, the April-July 1994 were the worst years of my life, but I have now true friends in the Tootsie community and Government. (I'm not known in Rwanda as William Rutledge and American citizen, I have a whole new life). 

I kept my moon flag, beta cloth name, and moon al7b equipment with original dust. 

15) L.S. What did you know about the unofficial Warwick Research Institute Report on the “Public Acclimation Program”, released in 1992 to the MUFON? 

W.R. I have no knowledge of this report, 1992 was a very hard year for me, I was disconnected from all this, can you give me a link?

16) L.S. Now we can discuss the ancient “alien spaceship” and “the City” on the farside of the Moon. Did you go inside the spaceship? How big was it and what did you find inside? 

W.R. We went inside the big spaceship, also into a triangular one. The major parts of the exploration was; it was a mother ship, very old, who crossed the universe at least milliard of years ago (1.5 estimated). There were many signs of biology inside, old remains of a vegetation in a "motor" section, special triangular rocks who emitted "tears" of a yellow liquid which has some special medical properties, and of course signs of extra solar creatures. We found remains of little bodies (10cm) living in a network of glass tubes all along the ship, but the major discovery was two bodies, one intact.

Figure 12. The alien spacecraft, allegedly photographed by the Apollo 20 crew.
[Photo Courtesy NASA/LPI].

17) L.S. Did you visit “the City” on the Moon? Where was it? Did you understand if was there a connection with the Space ship? Are “the City” and “the Ship” still there? 

W.R. The "City" was named on Earth and scheduled as station one, but it appeared to be a real space garbage, full of scrap, gold parts, only one construction seemed intact (we named it the Cathedral). We made shots of pieces of metal, of every part wearing calligraphy, exposed to the sun. The "City" seem to be as old as the ship, but it is a very tiny part. On the rover video, the telephotolens make the artifacts greater. 

18) L.S. What about the “Mona Lisa EBE”? [the correct Italian name is “Mona Lisa”] How does she look like and where was she at that time, when you found out her on the Moon. Where do you think she is now? 

W.R. Mona Lisa – I don’t remember who named the girl, Leonov or me - was the intact EBE. Humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized, haired, six fingers (we guess that mathematics are based on a dozen). Function; pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes, we had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostril. Leonov unfixed the eyes device (you'll see that in the video). concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body. Some parts of the body were in unusual good condition, (hair) and the skin was protected by a thin transparent protection layer. As we told to mission control, condition seemed not dead not alive. We had no medical background or experience, but Leonov and I used a test, we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by surgeon (Mission Control meds) was positive. That’s another story. Some parts could be unbelievable now, I prefer tell the whole story when other videos will be online. This experience has been filmed in the LM. We found a second body, destroyed, we brought the head on board. Color of the skin was blue gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some strange details above the eyes and the front, a strap around the head, wearing no inscription. The "cockpit" was full of calligraphy and formed of long semi hexagonal tubes. She is on Earth and she is not dead, but I prefer to post other videos before telling what happened after. 

Figure 12a. Mona-Lisa

19) L.S. Were you able to understand the origin of the spacecraft and how old was it? 

W.R. The age was estimated to 1.5 milliards of years, it was confirmed during exploration, we found ejections from the original crust, anorthosite, spirals in feldspathoids, coming from the impact which formed Izsak D; The density of meteor impacts on the ship validated the age, also little white impacts on the Monaco hill at the West of the ship... 

20-21 L.S. Can you give me the technical details for every material you disclosed on YouTube? I mean, can you distinguish among the tv transmissions from the Lunar rover and the camera footages, during the flyovers? I would need to know the details of shooting for every video you spread on the Web. What is the meaning of the strange numbers visibile on the videos, which sometimes slowly stream over the frames, in the flyover of the Moon? 

W.R. I have answered so much time on this, especially to a ESA astronaut. The transfer was in made in Rwanda, […] with codec and sound recuperation is not good, but it becomes better. The subtitles are not genuine, but put on the videos after transfer. I asked to remove the voices sometimes to protect one person from mission control. 

We used three video cameras in Apollo, one on the rover, called GTCA, it is not the name of a company (a commenter made a mistake on this) but a Westinghouse color camera. All three color cameras has a color wheel who produced a time frame delay when transmitting to the earth. I think it could be possible for a company to restore a good TV picture. The CSM camera had a black and white monitor, and produced stable pictures, sharp because focusig was visible on the monitor. The LM camera had a glass visor. The CSM camera was used one time on the AGC Visor, using the coordinates I've transmitted during the flyover video. The Flyover video was made in zero gravity. I was located on the left window, attitude horizontal, legs around the hammock, lens on the polycarbonate glass. The cameras had a Vidicon tube sensible with light, a large quantity of light, or changing the diaphragms put dropouts during transmission. The markings, numbers are used to perform a good landing. During program 64, when […] in almost in vertical attitude, we had to put the "60" number on the landing site and hold it on the target minutes before landing. These marks are on the both […] windows, you can verify it on a NASA site. Please verify on a genuine NASA site, (I got a flame by somebody who verified on the Apollo 13 movie) the markings had a special angle inclination. If you check it, you'll have an idea of my precise position during this sequence. 

Figure 12b. Mona-Lisa's face.

22) L.S. How did you get years ago the copies of the footages of the mission? 

W.R. About the footages […] one day, someone I know told me he was charged to maintain security around a container. A building had to be destroyed, and archives had to be burn by a plasma torch. The nuclear power plant didn’t deliver energy at the right price, so the container was plenty of interest things during some days. As human is naturally curious, people charged of security went inside… My friend took video films, a couple of 16 mm plates, boxes of B/W paper, two enlargers… He contacted me for selling the unsued paper, and that’s how I discovered the other things. I’ve already seen some picture before, 11*16 pictures were violet/blue, old RC photographies, I watched the tapes , it was not a business affair, I put them in security, the only important thing for me were the BW sheets of paper. It was 15 years ago. 

23) L.S. Have you ever met Clark McClelland, former NASA engineer who lost his job years ago because of what he discovered at the KSC (I suppose alien bodies or alien objects from the Space)? 

W.R. But you can give me the links. Documents can be at KSC, but no bodies or alien craft I think. 

24) L.S. You mentioned in a former letter C. M. and M. Who are they? 

W.R. C. M. is the website officer on Oceans NASA site [http://oceancolor.gsfc.nasa.gov]; M. also. A. M. is 508 Coordinator. I only have mail exchange with Johnson Space Center for the moment. There is a moment of panic I think since May 18. Check 508 coordinator NASA on a search engine. Statement 508 is the way of pushing NASA to declassify material. I expected a reaction. 

Luca >>> it is a part of my strategy, NASA has the right to block me if I download unauthorized information. If they explain why they block me, they recognize that the videos can be obtained from them. If I sue them for violation of Statement 508, they will be forced to prove I downloaded unauthorized material , and it's not the case, I never go on a NASA site. 

Since May 18, I have not a precise answer, I have to wait for a decision from the headquarters. 

Even as Italian citizen, you have the right to ask for material from a federal agency like NASA, see 508 Statement: 


25-26) L.S. Aren’t you afraid of the U.S. Government’s reaction and why did you talk about the date of September 2007, when NASA and USAF (according to you) “will be forced to tell the whole story before September 2007” What does it mean and Who is your “deep throat”? In another recent your communication to me, you talked about the “2012” year. You said: “In 2012, the weakers will die, and governments preserve the only bit of their heritage […] everybody has to be prepared for 2012”. Is there any connection with the “Planet X” return (the ancient Nibiru, adored by the Sumerians in Mesopotamia) ? What did you know about it? 

25) W.R. I'm the deep throat. What can NASA USAF do now? Blocking or suing me would be an acknowledgement. They can speak of hoax or fiction. I'm just afraid they could open a site or another account with my name or putting almost perfect false videos with voluntary errors to disinform. Fortunately, bureaucracy and time works for me. It's a race. 

That's why the idea of putting the Leonov files is a good idea, no controversy anymore, there are no Leonov footage, no videos of this period of Leonov in a LM or on a USA USAF base. It is unthinkable related to the official version . 

26) W.R. I am a passionate of the Sumerian period, of the Genesis as related by Sumerian. They clearly explain how gods created man. But I have no indications on Sumerian cosmogony, send me some links.

There is a question you didn't ask for and I'm always surprised that nobody does. This could be your question 27 - why is it necessary to hide UFOs, why disinformation, why putting all this under the carpet? It's question of economics. All currencies on Earth are based on the value of gold. Not many citizens know that but gold is an extraterrestrial metal coming from the death of a star. When a star is dying, its mass is growing, atoms are compressed and when the star explodes, it spreads large amounts of gold in young solar systems. That's why gold is not a mineral to treat but a perfect, carbon free metal. This mean that it is the most common substance in the universe, no more value than a piece of plastic. 

That's enough to put down all world currencies. Imagine also that an EBE says: "coffee has a good taste, rare in this galaxy", the only perspective of trading coffee through universe would displace the economic power to countries of the South in one day. You see, not a problem of panic, but simply a problem of economy.

The end of the interview 

May 25, 2007
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Interestingly enough, in 2008, another whistle-blower contacted Luca Scantamburlo, calling himself “Moonwalker1966Delta”. He claimed to be the Commander of Apollo 19—a survivor from that mission. Because Rutledge had revealed his story a year earlier, “Moonwalker1966Delta” decided to do the same. The interview is posted on Scantamburlo’s website.[24]

I am not going to quote that whole article in this paper—we don’t have space for that,but I will paraphrase what this astronaut said. He was basically verifying what Col. Rutledge had said one year earlier, except for a few details. He confirmed that Apollo 19 was landing in the same area as Apollo 20. He even named the crew he was working with, such as the female astronaut, Stephanie Ellis, who supposedly died in a training accident in 1975. Moonwalker1966Delta (Moonwalker) gives hints that it may not have been an accident because Ellis apparently had a tendency to talk a lot about this moon mission, which was highly classified. Another participant in the Apollo 19 project was apparently a Soviet cosmonaut, Aleksei Sorokin, and an American astronaut, John Swigert, Jr, born in 1931 and dead in 1982, supposedly from cancer. Moonwalker also confirms that he met Col. William Rutledge at the time when they were preparing for the Apollo 20 mission.

At one point, Rutledge had told Luca Scantamburlo in confidence that the Apollo 20 crew, besides Alexei Leonov and William Rutledge consisted of Charles Peter Conrad, with James Irwin as CAPCOM. Irwin was also the Lunar Module Pilot on the Apollo 15 Mission, when they first saw and took shots of the alien spaceships on the moon.[25]

In fact, according to Moonwalker, Apollo 19 had as its mission to explore two triangular craft, located south of the main mothership, the mothership herself, and the alien moon base located south-west of the mothership. Moonwalker confirms that the mothership and the two smaller craft seem to fit together, or at least be of the same age. It looked to the crew like this moon base had been subjected to a cosmic “Pearl Harbor”—it was utterly destroyed, and the mothership and the smaller triangular craft seemed to have been shot down in some emergency take-off. This is exactly the same conclusions Leonov and Rutledge made, according to both Moonwalker and Scantamburlo.

Moonwalker even gives us the coordinates for the two triangular spaceships in AS15-P-9625 and AS15-P-9630, in the upper side of the picture and just right of the mothership at coordinates 18.7S - 116.92E and 18.31S - 117.48E. Moonwalker says we should be able to see that they are absolutely identical in their triangular shape. If you use a software like NASA World Wind it could be easy to locate them and notice the green metallic brilliance of the first object, he says. The only problem I have here is that I can’t locate the picture. I am aware of that pictures and videos were put up on YouTube and elsewhere during 2007-2008, but many were taken down again when the NASA astronauts got “cold feet”.

However, Scantamburlo comments on some other coordinates left by Moonwalker, but apparently he was able to locate the objects. However, not until the coordinates had been fine jousted. Here is the conversation between  Scantamburlo and Moonwalker when they were trying to locate the objects. L.S. is Luca Scantamburlo, the freelance reporter (I have made no comment here on specific misspellings and grammar errors):

L.S.   Lunar coordinates of the presumed alien space mothership: Nose 17.3 deg S, 117.62 deg E; Cockpit 17.15 deg S, 117.62 deg E; Base 17.20 deg S, 117.62 deg E. Were they given us inverted? The longitude is coherent with the position of the huge object (approximately 4 km long). The problem is with the latitude: not with the latitude data, but with their reference to the major parts of the object (the nose and the base). We should have their reversal, in my opinion. What do you think?

Moonwalker1966delta: We had to do the same footage and follow the same path. If you follow the path of the LM in the first part of the footage and compare it on a lunar map you will see that is coherent with the subtitles and the camera we had to use would have been a 16mm Maurer motion picture cameras with 10mm lenses with the Data Acquisition Camera Mount connected to the the window sliding rail through a knob. In the second part of the video the footage is provided by mounting a photolens of 75 mm with it's aperture aligned to the LM X axis + 1 degree and usually used to film the outdoor CM manouvers and alignments.In this second part of the footage the trajectory is not coherent to the previous trajectory nor to the subtitles. I think the second part has been inverted and the subtitles followed the inverted images providing the right coordinates but in the opposite sequence. The video must be seen reverted from the bottom to the cockpit and the subtitles indications must be reverted too leaving the coordinates data unchanged. That's my idea.[26]

Now, I thought it all ended here, but after this interview, Scantamburlo was contacted by Bill Ryan, then working for Project Camelot, together with Kerry Lynn Cassidy. Bill told him that many people thought that the Apollo 20 information was a hoax, but on the other hand, Bill had found a thread on one of the top conspiracy forums, Above Top Secret (ATS), which was started in April 2008, and seemed to be related to this whole story. So Scantamburlo checked it out, and apparently the thread was started by a son of a former NRO employee, where NRO stands for “National Reconnaissance Office”[27], a very important Intelligence Agency, which was declassified in 1992.

Anyway, seemingly unrelated to Scantamburlo’s Apollo 20 story, this whistle-blower was saying that his father was involved in a black operation back in 1976 (same year as Apollo 20) at the Vandenberg AFB (Air force base; same location), with the same goal, which was to investigate a lunar singularity, confirmed in 1973 (just like the Mona Lisa spacecraft was filmed and photographed in 1973). It was in fact a derelict spacecraft, according to this whistle-blower.

Then Scantamburlo lists the main points the whistle-blower mentions regarding his father’s mission:

1. He did not mention anything about "Apollo 20" and never even gave a formal name. In addition, there were no markings on the rocket or spacecraft. This operation was entirely off the books. No one on the operation used their real names, that's how far it went.

2. Mission Control was located at Vandenburg AFB. The actual launch was on the island of Diego Garcia. This island was located in the Indian Ocean along the equator with virtually nothing around it. This site was chosen because if launched to the East, the rocket would have nearly 12,000 miles of unbroken water to help cover the tracks. It was accepted people would see the launch wherever it was, this site would limit that.

3. The project was initiated, by Nixon's orders, in late 1971. My father's work began on the project began in 1974. The actual mission took place in 1976. My father said that he underwent an intensive psychological exam before he was selected to join the program. He said he thought he was bought in mainly because he "could be trusted".

4. The actual mission consisted of 3 American astronauts whose names he would not mention. He said that these men had been trained for nearly 4 years specifically for this mission. He also said that in 1973 it was confirmed the object was in fact a derelict spacecraft. He reviewed this pictures personally when selected for the project.

5. The spacecraft was speculated to be roughly 1.5 million years old, although he was not allowed access to that exact information. The ship was badly decayed from meteor impacts and the ancient crash. The ship was cigar shaped, and massive, the section was roughly 1 mile. Evidence suggested it been explored before us. No alien remains were found. 300kg of artifacts were stripped and brought back. My father described what he called "strange hieroglyphs and markings" covering what was assumed to be the the "cockpit" of the craft.

6. At least 2 other governments were involved with the project. My father said he worked with a British analyst and he knew of a smaller team in Australia but wasn't sure the Australian government were exactly aware of what our men were doing.[28] [29]

Reporter Luca Scantamburlo was quite stunned because this whistle-blower (WB), although never mentioning Apollo 20 directly, in his thread had exposed something Rutledge had told Scantamburlo in private emails, but Scantamburlo didn’t publish it at the time. Now someone else obviously had!

For example, WB said that there were no markings whatsoever on the rocket or spaceship, which launched from Vandenberg AFB in California. In fact, according to Scantamburlo, Rutledge had told him on June 6, 2007, that “On the lift off sequence, the saturn 5 has no markings till the third stage. […] In vandenberg, the saturn V launch had to be not reconizable, no BW lines or USA marks on the rocket. Only the last ring was black painted, and it could look like an ordinary Delta rocket at 4 miles distance.”[30]

There were more example of revelations by WB, which Scantamburlo had not revealed in public. I have a feeling that this is not the end of this story.

7. Conclusions Regarding the Apollo 20 Mission

I find this information quite interesting, although it’s not without flaws and suspicions. If we look at the whole story I’ve just told you, including all whistle-blowers, it may look like they are separate from each other, but revealing the same information.

If this would be so, we would have something next to a solid case. What gets to me, however, are a few things, and I’m not going to mention the small things, which I find could be irrelevant, and don’t prove anything, either way.

First of all, who says that all these whistle-blowers are unrelated, even in the sense that they may know each other, but don’t know what the other one has revealed? Couldn’t it be that they in fact are all working for the Intelligence Community, and they are just putting out some disinformation, pretending to be unrelated?

For example, let’s say that Rutledge gives Scantamburlo information that he wants the reporter to keep to himself for the moment. Shortly after, Moonwalker reveals the same information Rutledge has asked Scantamburlo to keep secret in order to convince skeptics that this is a true story. Instead, they all know of each other’s conversations, because they are working together, and are just putting on a show. That’s one possibility.

What first got me interested in this story was the deep knowledge the witnesses have regarding how NASA works, and all the technical details they reveal, which can only come from highly trained engineers, or even rocket engineers, or perhaps NASA space pilots. There is more technical information if you read Scantamburlo’s whole story from beginning to end—I didn’t include it all in this version.

This could mean a few things. Firstly, it could mean that the witnesses are genuine—that they are who they say they are. Secondly, they could be genuine, but under mind control to reveal exactly what the Global Elite want them to reveal. Thirdly, these people could be highly trained Intel personnel, put in position to give us a cover story—something for UFOlogists to set their teeth in and be distracted and confused by. It could even be that most of the story is true, and that the MIC deliberately told us what happened, as close to the truth as possible without revealing the most secret aspects of the story.

Now to the last major thing that hit me when I read through Scantamburlo’s material. We should be able to establish at least one thing as true, and that is that American astronauts are highly educated people, and they all have an IQ well above the average person. So, I am going to ask the question that should be obvious, but which I haven’t seen anybody ask so far: if Rutledge and Moonwalker truly are American astronauts, why is their English so bad and sloppy? First of all, astronauts are taught never to be sloppy—their job is a matter of life and death, and the tiniest sloppiness may result in the death of the whole crew or severely jeopardize the whole mission. It’s highly unlikely that they would be this sloppy, even in emails.

Moreover, Rutledge gives the impression of using English as his second language. He is aware of this, and blames it on that he is now living in Rwanda and is not using English as his everyday language. Personally, I think that’s a lame excuse, because English is my second language, and I never use Swedish (my first language) in my everyday life, either, and haven’t done in a very long time. Although, I have a tendency to forget which preposition falls after a certain word, and there are certain words and terms I sometimes have difficulties remembering, it’s not nearly as bad as it sometimes is in Rutledge’s case. However, I’m going to grant him his explanation and leave it with that, but then we have Moonwalker, which is an even more obvious case, I think. He has no excuse for using bad English, because he still resided in the U.S. when he communicated with Scantamburlo. The latter says on his website that he can see clearly that Moonwalker is American, because his English is very good, but I disagree. Scantamburlo is Italian, and he may have some difficulties seeing spelling and grammar errors in Moonwalker’s writing because his own English writing isn’t perfect, either. However, Moonwalker’s errors are there, and some of them are errors no educated American would make. There is little doubt that Moonwalker is educated, but perhaps not in the United States.

Then we have the claims that Apollo 19 and 20 were joint missions—a number of nations were involved in the projects. This may explain why their English is bad, but if so, why lie about it? Obviously, Rutledge and Moonwalker are in that case not whom they say they are.

So, what do we make out of all these pros and cons regarding this story? Have we now debunked it and can leave it behind us as a pile of disinformation? Perhaps, but personally I’m not so sure about that. There is something in this story that still rings quite true. I do still believe that they found the ships on the moon, although I would still like to see the photos of the triangular ships. I will contact Scantamburlo and ask him to send them to me. If I use a NASA software, I may see them as clearly as Scantamburlo and Moonwalker allegedly did, and I have no reason at all not to trust Scantamburlo. He comes across as an honest reporter.

Figure 13. Italian freelance reporter from Venice, Luca Scantamburlo, born in 1974, and working for the Italian magazines,
Tecnologia & Difesa and UFO Notiziario. This photo is from 2006.

Stories like this are always complicated—particularly when it looks like the whistle-blowers are making obvious mistakes, or there are obvious inconsistencies in them. An untrained researcher would in these cases discard the material and stamping it “DISINFORMATION!” and leave it with that. The trained researchers, however, gets very suspicious when they see obvious mistakes in the material. To them it means that the mistakes were done on purpose for some reason, and the material is therefore worth looking into a little extra. There may be an underlying, subtle message which is not obvious at first, and which only a trained eye can see. I think that’s the case with the Apollo 20 story.

Does this mean that the Apollo 19 and 20 Missions actually took place, then? Yes, that is my impression. I have the feeling that Apollo 15 (or some other, more secret mission, perhaps) saw some anomalies on the dark side of the moon which they filmed and photographed. After all, “The City” is real—I’m pretty confident with that, so why not the shots of the spacecraft? They are there on the films—we can’t deny that. Are they photoshopped? There is always a chance, but it sure doesn’t look like it.

What about Mona Lisa? Did they actually find hers, and another alien’s body in the mothership? Perhaps. It looks like the astronaut, who supposedly is Rutledge, is doing a first investigation on her, which is another thing I found strange. If they really found this alien body on the moon, fully intact (and some say she was not alive and not dead, which means she must have been in incubation), allegedly after 1.5 billion years (which is an awful long time), why would an astronaut have permission to do anything at all with her? One would think that they got orders not to touch the body at all and maybe transport it home to Earth as intact and “alive” as possible. However, that’s just my own opinion—they could have other orders, and Rutledge could also have been medically trained, I don’t know.

If I should trust Dr. A.R. Bordon of LPG-C, he recognizes Mona Lisa as an ancient “Mongolian” race, which is allegedly sometimes present in the annual meetings Dr. Bordon and his team have with many different alien species, to discuss our own human future in relation to these alien civilizations, whose representatives meet annually, on or off planet. When I asked Dr. Bordon about more details about the “Mongolians”, he told me he doesn’t know much about them. If my memory serves me right, I think he said that they were only “observers”, which means they were not in a position to take an active stand in those meetings. Also, they may only have showed up once or twice during meetings that have been regular for the last 10-15 years or so.

Then, of course, another question comes to mind, if we are to believe Dr. Bordon: if this race is billions of years old, hasn’t it changed at all over this enormous amount of time? Hasn’t the race evolved?

This makes me think that either Dr. Bordon’s Mongolians and the being found on the moon are not the same race, or the dating technology used on Mona Lisa gives inaccurate results. For now, I want to disregard Bordon’s information, not because it’s necessarily incorrect, but I’d rather concentrate on the actual finding of the body.

As I said a few paragraphs ago, stories like this, if released by the government on purpose, will include disinformation, but also clues so that the truth can actually be found if the truth-seeker is spending time and is really looking. For example, why did the witnesses have to say that the body was 1.5 billion years old, and potentially still alive? This sounds like a piece of disinformation in the middle of something quite accurate. I think this body, if it’s actually real, is much younger than 1.5 billion years—it sounds much more plausible that it could be a million or so years old at the most. Aliens, who are visiting our solar system, sometimes use many different bodies, which they “jump” between. This means that they have bodies in storage on-planet and off-planet which they can use when they need to. Depending on which kind of species they are, they most likely cannot just land here on Earth and survive in our atmosphere. The solution, more often than not, is to create clones and hybrids (if they know how to genetically engineer or manipulate a race) which are almost exact copies of the species which is natural to the planet—in this case humans. Therefore, we can see alien souls in human, hybrid bodies walking around among us, and we don’t even know they’re not human.

Mona Lisa could have been a body put in incubation to be used later. After all, she was attached to the spaceship through her nostrils, potentially signifying that the body may have gotten some nutrition that way. What happened when they disconnected it, we can only guess. It could actually have killed her after a while.

If the footage we’re shown from the spaceship, with Mona Lisa lying flat on her back is real, it could mean that this Mongolian body was already adapt to the Earth’s atmosphere. She looks quite human, but still not. She could very well be an old hybrid, ready to use.

Notes and References (hit the back button on your browser to go back from where you came after have read the note):   

[1] Wes Penre Paper of June 17, 2011: “PFC Paper #5: Present and Future Earth Changes and their True Causes”, Section 4.2: “Revealing Photos From Leading University, and Video Taped Monolith Statement From Famous Former NASA Astronaut.” [http://wespenre.com/present-and-future-earth-changes-and-their-true-causes.htm]

[2] David Icke (2010)

[3] Zecharia Sitchin, “Genesis Revisited” (1990)

[5] A lot of the theories and evidence that the Apollo Project was fake can be read in Eric Hufschmid's paper, "Did Anybody Really Land On the Moon?" (last edited May 6, 2004), http://www.erichufschmid.net/ApolloMoonHoax.pdf.

[6] Whether there were actual hippies who were part of starting the objection or not is up for debate. It’s sometimes hard to know what is staged and what is not.

[7] House, Subcommittee on Manned Space Flight of the Committee on Science and Astronautics, 1974 NASA Authorization, Hearings on H.R. 4567, 93/2, Part 2, Page 1271.

[8] For a summary, see Eric Hufschmid, "Did Anybody Really Land On the Moon?" (last edited May 6, 2004), http://www.erichufschmid.net/ApolloMoonHoax.pdf.

[10] "psychological operation", normally done by different Intelligence Agencies and the Military Industrial Complex with the purpose to spread disinformation or debunk someone who is getting to close to the truth.

[12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bhpfy-4mws&feature=related. Especially watch the last few minutes of the film.

[14] For more info on this and similar topics, see http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html; http://projectcamelotportal.com/, and http://projectavalon.net/ (the latter currently under reconstruction at the time of this writing).    

[16] See the beginning of this chapter, where it says that Apollo 15 started orbiting the moon from its back side.

See Wikipedia for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15

[17] The term “milliard” is a European, and perhaps Russian, term, which is the same as the English and American term “billion”. It is unclear why Rutledge is using European linguistics when he allegedly is American. Perhaps after have spent a lot of time amongst Soviet/Russian cosmonauts?

[19] If a reader is able to still find the whole video, please contact me at wespenre@outlook.com.

[20] Exopolitics is a term coined by researcher, Dr. Alfred Webre, and basically means the organization of interstellar societies and their interaction with each other.

[23] Luca Scantamburlo interview with Col. William Rutledge on May 25, 2007,http://www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/REPORTS_ARTICLES/Apollo20-InterviewWithWilliamRutledge.htm, op. cit.

[25] Yes, there were more than one ship. Besides the giant “ark”, there were also two green triangular smaller craft, which Rutledge mentioned in passing in the earlier interview, if you go back some through this chapter.

[28] Apollo 20 update, Topic started on 9-4-2008 @ 09:33 AM by Johnny Raincheckd

reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 09:50 PM by Anonymous ATS Source: http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread347845/pg11

[30] from Luca Scantamburlo's YouTube account, message by "retiredafb" (received on June 6, 2007, 01:37 AM, op. cit.

[31] Original photo borrowed from Scantamburlo’s biography at http://www.angelismarriti.it/ANGELISMARRITI-ENG/biography.htm


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