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Exopolitical Paper #4:
What NASA Found on the Moon by Wes Penre,
November 4, 2012
1.What Are We
Really Seeing in the Skies?
Have you ever asked yourself why we, at
least officially, stopped going to the moon? Well, I’m old
enough to actually remember when Neil Armstrong put his feet on
the moon in 1969 and how thrilled the whole world was over the
achievement. Although I was just a kid, I clearly recall how
proud people were of being human—we had put a flag on another
planet. Humanity had expanded outside the realms of our own
planet—we were about to conquer space, for real! Yes, it was not
science fiction anymore!
Then what happened? Well, after Apollo
11, more rockets and more people were sent to our satellite, but
these projects never got the media exposure even close to that
of Apollo 11. Then, all of a sudden, the Apollo project
discontinued and we were told that we were no longer going to
send people or space rockets to the moon—it was too expensive.
That was it?
Now, in retrospect, over the years the Apollo Program was
ongoing, we didn’t learn very much, did we? We read in the
papers and heard on the news that the astronauts had brought
artifacts, like moon rocks and such other-worldly things back to
Earth for study; we learned that the moon had hardly any
atmosphere; we saw beautiful pictures of the Earth, supposedly
taken by the astronauts
the moon and from outer space; we were
told that there is no life on the moon whatsoever from what we
could tell, and perhaps we learned a few other, rather
insignificant things. But honestly, was that all humanity
learned from visiting the moon?
Not at all.
Today, many people understand that much information that was
gathered during the Apollo years and earlier (and later!), was
kept secret by NASA and the upper echelons of the government. Up
until this day, very little of this secret information has
leaked out to the public. Fortunately, there have been
whistle-blowers (some of them genuine, other being government
plants) who have told
of what the astronauts found on the
moon. If we are to believe them, nothing is what we have been
told—in fact, we can almost turn the information we’ve been
receiving from the media around 180°. Indeed, there is too much
hidden information that can be found with a little patience to
be included in this book—it would require a full volume by
itself, but I want to bring up a few highlights for the purpose
of the context of this book.
Some people say that Apollo 17, in 1972,
was the last Apollo Mission, and it closed down after that, but
the story I am now going to tell is actually from a secret
Apollo 20 mission, which supposedly never took place. I took
that under consideration when I researched the material, but
when I looked at the result, I came to a different conclusion.
Although I can’t prove 100% that everything is true of what I am
now going to convey, it’s most likely that most of it is. Like with
all sensitive information, it’s been quite ridiculed and
“debunked," but none of that has been very impressive on me, so
I have decided to publish the material now, two years after the
research was done.
I am not the first one who is handing
out this information. Some of it has been mentioned by some
researchers, and some of it by others. However, I believe that
the full material you are now going to take part of, has not
been told this way before, and some of the conclusions are
exclusive and based upon my research in general at the time
(2011), but especially as it still holds water, from what I can
see, I am not going to add or subtract very much from my
We are going to start with discussing to highly controversial
subject whether the Apollo moon landing happened at all, or if
it was actually all fake and created in a studio in the United
States. In spite of all the alarming information that the moon
not take place, I don’t
agree with that viewpoint. I am aware of that many astronauts
have been interviewed by truth-seeking researchers, where the
latter have suggested to the astronauts that they actually never
put their foot on the moon, or never even were anything near the
moon. There are interesting YouTube videos showing some of these
interviews (some of them forced upon the astronauts in quite an
intrusive way), and the astronauts’ answers were sometimes
confusing, to say the least, suggesting to the critical ear that
some of the astronauts indeed didn’t seem to know much about
their past endeavors on the moon, it doesn’t mean that they were
If we look at it from a bigger
perspective, and include a few other things that we know about
the Global Elite and the Alien Invader Force (AIF), there is
something called “mind control” that certainly could play a big
part in the confusion. From have studied mind control on
different levels, I think I can say with quite some accuracy,
that many, if not all of the astronauts that were interviewed
have been subjected to some form of mind control.
Imagine if the astronauts actually saw something spectacular, or
found something at least as amazing on the moon, and the Powers
That Be (PTB) wanted to keep that a secret, how could they most
easily do that? Of course, they would use mind control! The
whole Apollo Project with putting a man on the moon before the
decade of the 1960s was over would be a very hazardous mission
indeed on many levels—not the least if we consider what the
find on our closest satellite, which
the government did
want the public to know about (e.g. it could
involve the whole ET issue, which made the whole project a hot
potato). The only way to avoid a leakage of such, or similar
information from the astronauts involved, whether the leakage
would be accidental or intentional, would be to keep the
astronauts under mind control. In spite of this (if that is what
actually took place), there are conversations between astronauts
and the Houston ground control that were later cut out from the
tapes that were released to the public. However, it could not be
cut out from a live transmission, when millions of people were
listening. What Houston did, however (or those in superior
positions did), was to distort the transmission fairly instantly
when they realized what the conversation was about. On at least
a couple of occasions, it included UFO sightings.
am suggesting that the mind control was done on the astronauts
before they flew to the
moon. I would also suggest that when they returned to Earth,
they were having the memories of the astronauts erased! This is
one logical explanation to why the astronauts seem so nervous
during the spontaneous interviews that were held by alternative
investigators. The astronauts simply did not remember much of
the details from their trip or trips!
I can’t say for
certain that this is what happened, but I find it most likely.
This could also be why so many astronauts withdrew from the
public arena after their job was done. Some of them, like Buzz
Aldrin, became alcoholics, although, in his case, he remembered
quite a bit of what happened, and he even went on air to tell
his stories, just like I wrote in one of the WPPs.
Anyway, let’s move on to the story I
Figure 1. A logo for Stanley
Kubrick's, "2001 -- A
Space Odyssey", released in 1968
The Moon has
been subjected to a lot of pondering and conspiracy
theories—everything from having been transported here by an
extraterrestrial race with the purpose to observe us, to being
the base of holographic manipulation of us here on Earth by a
reptilian species from the lower 4th dimension. The translator of the Sumerian cuneiform,
Zecharia Sitchin, says that the moon was not originally a
satellite to Earth, but that of Tiamat, a large planet which
used to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, but was
destroyed in a collision with one of Nibiru’s moons in an
ancient past. A part of Tiamat then became Earth. The Pleiadians, channeled by Barbara
Marciniak, state that the moon is artificial, and thus not a
natural planetary body.
As we can see, there are a lot of
theories in circulation. Later in this chapter we are going to
explore what the moon actually is and how it potentially came
into orbit, but first there is something else I would like to
bring up. What did NASA find on the moon on their last official
Apollo trip to the moon?
On July 26, 1971, Apollo 15 was launched
from the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral, and it ended on
August 7, about two weeks later. NASA was at the time calling it
the most successful manned Apollo Mission so far, with Commander
David Scott and Lunar Module Pilot James Irwin spending 3 days
on the moon, including 18 ½ hours outside the spacecraft. Scott
and Irwin were the seventh and eight humans, respectively (and
officially), who walked the moon.
Four days after leaving Florida, the
spacecraft passed behind the far side of the moon, continued in
orbit to the near side and landed in Hadley-Apennine, on the
eastern edge of Mare Imbrium, called “Marsh of Decay”. Here
Scott and Irwin spent a lot of time outside the craft,
collecting moon rocks, which were later carefully studied on
From a public point of view, these were
the highlights of the mission. Apollo 15 then returned safely to
Earth with all the three astronauts (Alfred Warden was the
Commander of the Module, but never walked on the moon himself).
This trip would have gone to history as
just another (although, apparently the most successful) lunar
trip, and been more or less forgotten by everybody, if it wasn’t
for one rumor that kept imposing on the trip, that something was
found that was not officially filmed, and not mentioned to the
There were two more official Apollo
Missions after number 15, and Apollo 17 was the last one, so
we’re told. However, there is evidence that the Apollo Mission
continued well after that, and in reality, Apollo 20 would have
been the last one, launched in secret in August, 1976.
The question is, if the planned Apollo
Missions 18-20 actually took place in spite of the fact that
they were officially cancelled (and it’s very likely), why did
they become so secret? It will become quite understandable when
we know what Apollo 20’s mission actually was, and what the crew
supposedly accomplished! What they seem to have found on the
moon is nothing less but revolutionary!
However, before we go into this in
details, let us touch another subject that has confused a lot of
Did the Apollo Missions really take
place at all, or were the footage we saw from the moon, supposed
to have been taken live from the different moon trips, actually
shot beforehand in a studio by one of our all times best film
producer? And even worse—did man walk on the moon at all, or is
it all part of the biggest scam and cover-up in the history of
There are actually people who claim that
the moon missions did never take place at all. It may sound like
lunacy (no pun intended) to the common person, but those who are
insisting at least have some reason to do so. However, are the
correct? Well, let’s ponder the following story, and the readers
can make up their own mind. At the end of the story, I will let
you know my own viewpoint on it, and why I think what I do (it
may still differ from your own conclusions, which of course is
totally in order).
There is evidence that Stanley Kubrick
created a Moon landscape in a studio here on Earth that was so
well constructed that up to this date the majority of the
population can't tell a difference even if it was pointed out to
them on a TV or movie screen. So how do these two events, the
real moon landings and Kubrick's fabricated ones, fit together
to perhaps create a bigger picture?
Figure 2. The late
controversial filmmaker Stanley Kubrick.
Most of us know that Stanley Kubrick (1928-1999) made the
incredibly beautiful movie
"2001 -- A
Space Odyssey" after Arthur C.
Clarke's excellent novel with the same. The conspiracy theory
goes that Kubrick was financed by the Global Elite to make the
2001 movie, and he got astronomical funds for it. It became a
great blockbuster, so the film industry got more back than
they'd ever expected. That probably created some relief to the
financers, as no one before Kubrick had ever gotten such huge
funds to make a movie. It cost an astronomical amount.
How come that this young, ambitious
filmmaker got all this money to use on something that the film
company actually thought was too abstract to reach a wide
Well, here is how the story goes. The
people behind the project, on a very high level, had plans for
young Stanley. They saw his genius and his enormous talent, and
the timing was perfect. The movie was finished and published in
1968, in the middle of the Apollo Program. JFK had promised the
American people to put a man on the Moon before 1970, so Lyndon
Johnson had his feet to the fire with less than two years to go.
NASA was not nearly ready to put a man on the Moon at that time,
although they were working on it furiously. LBJ needed a back-up
plan, and this is where Kubrick comes into the picture.
Kubrick was an enormously driven
visionary and filmmaker. His genius and his belief that art is
one of the most important things in existence made him
unstoppable—he was being used to give him what he wanted—free
So, one day he was approached by
government people (and those from behind the scenes—the
classical “men with dark suits and sunglasses”) whom asked
Kubrick if he could help them with the Apollo Project. They
tried to push Kubrick's buttons, saying it was a patriotic thing
to do and that his assistance would really help the country.
However, they didn't know Kubrick too well, because the country
was not his biggest concern; it was his art. That's where his
So what was it that they wanted him to
They wanted him to create a perfect moon
landscape in a giant studio, where they would create a fake moon
landing with actors and real astronauts. Everything would be
rigorously rehearsed so that the public wouldn't be able to tell
the difference. This way, Kubrick was told, NASA could show the
fake movies to the public in case the Apollo Project didn't
happen before 1970. They said to Kubrick that not only had JFK
promised that the moon landings would happen—it was also a race
against the Soviets. America had to prove they could do it—it
was a matter of prestige and technology show-off.
Initially, Kubrick was not very keen on
doing this—he thought that we shouldn't lie to the American
public—it was not right. The government representatives,
however, told Kubrick that the fake films would only be shown to
the people if the moon landings didn't happen on time, which
they probably would.
They offered Kubrick a lot of money to
do it, but the filmmaker was torn and asked if he could think
about it. When he came back with an answer, he said he'd do it,
but on two conditions: 1. he would get as much funding as he
needed for any and all future films we was making, and 2. He
would get free hands and always be approved to make whatever
movie he wished to—he would never be rejected because of his
ideas. He added that if NASA and the Government were desperate,
he was the only person who could do this project—no one else
knew how to.
NASA and the Government were well aware
of this, but the conditions Kubrick presented sounded pretty
unreasonable and could have severe implications. They all knew
that Kubrick was "radical" and could be a potential threat if
they gave him free hands, so first they said no, only to agree
later. It was not so much about the funding—there was plenty of
money in hidden, black funds, and whatever Kubrick needed was
like a drop in the ocean anyway. It was more what Kubrick would
release in the future that was the problem. However, if worse
came to worse, they were well capable of arranging an
"accident", or inducing a heart attack, if needed. So yes, the
two parties had an agreement!
Stanley worked day and night on this
project, because he was on a time schedule. Still, the finished
work proved to be impeccable. And why wouldn't it? Stanley was a
theories go that when the moon landscape was successfully
created, Kubrick's filmmaking genius came into play, and they
took different shots of different scenarios they could show us,
the people, if things would go wrong with the real Apollo
Once done, Kubrick went on with his business, and NASA with
theirs. Kubrick made a lot of movies during his career, and
indeed, many of them were quite revealing in a way that created
some anxiety within the Secret Government. In the end, they may
have actually used stellar technology to eliminate Kubrick in
1999, shortly after he released
Shut", starring Tom Cruise and Nichole
Kidman. This film exposed the Global Elite and their secret sex
magick and ritual meetings within secret societies on an Elite
level, where only prominent members were invited. Kubrick still
only exposed the “soft version” of these otherwise horrendous
rituals, but I’m sure that one or two Elite members choked on
their morning coffee when they saw the result. However, as it
usually goes, the cause of Kubrick's untimely death is still up
for debate as of this writing.
Figure 3. A scene
from the movie "Eyes Wide
Shut" by Stanley Kubrick. Was this the movie which got him
killed? Or did he actually die from natural causes? To be
In 1969, Neil
Armstrong became the first man on the moon, according to NASA,
and there is a lot of classic footage from the ground-breaking
event. Everybody was happy, except perhaps the Soviets and some
hippies who thought the Government spent way too much money on
the Apollo Project. These protests were heard in high places,
though, and more and more people (according to the official
version) agreed with the hippies. Why spend so much money on
space programs when people are starving on our own planet and we
have so many unresolved issues?
Of course, all
these concerns could very well have been planted by the
Government themselves to put an end to the space program. After
all, the final cost for the Apollo project was reported to
Congress as $25.4 billion in 1973. Apollo 17 was the last manned mission in
Before we go into that, let's ask
ourselves a question: was the costs really the main reason why
the Apollo programs stopped suddenly? Yes, they were expensive,
but since the 1970s, we haven't been to the moon at all, again
according to official sources like NASA, the Government and the
Media parrots. After all, the space programs did not end with
the Apollo Project, but what puzzles me, and I’m sure many
others as well, is the fact that all of a sudden it seemed like
the moon was not interesting at all anymore. Attention started
being put elsewhere.
Over time, and
especially since the Internet became a factor, people have
gotten more and more suspicious about the Apollo Missions, and
in particular "the-first-man-on-the-moon" case. Did Armstrong
really walk on the moon in 1969? People started seeing through
Kubrick's fake films and NASA's dub-in comments from Houston
Ground Zero. There were discrepancies in Kubrick's film, they
said, and they could show evidence that this was the case.
Other journalists went as far as interviewing the astronauts
face to face and accuse them of lying and insisted for them to
tell the public the truth about the moon landings. This was then
posted on YouTube in a documentary called,
"Astronauts Gone Wild".
to be done to prevent the public from knowing the truth. A
psy-op needed to be instigated.
There are a number of different ways to do that, but one of the
most effective ways to do it is to tell the truth and then say
it was a lie, or a joke, or present the truth in a movie,
calling it “science fiction”. However, in this case, the latter
was too little too late. So, what the Global Elite seemingly did
was to produce another documentary called,
Landing A Fake Or Fact?",where they told the whole story about
Kubrick and NASA and the deal they made. Interviewed in the
documentary were leading Global Elite members like Henry
Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeldt, Alexander Haig, and many other
familiar faces, whom all admitted to that the conspiracy theory
was true! Even Kubrick’s wife was interviewed. What a glorious
moment for all conspiracy theorists--they were right, and
amazingly enough—the Globalists admitted to it!
However, for you
who haven't watched it yet—there’s a twist to all this! When the
audience thinks the documentary is over, they start showing
"outtakes" from the film. Here they reveal that the people
interviewed were reading from scripts, and that the whole
interview was staged! The moral of the story? "See how easy it
is to fool people!" By releasing a documentary like that, they
are further mudding the waters and people get even more
confused. At the end, Kissinger et al don't tell us what is true
or not, but leave us hanging so we can argue and speculate even
more without getting any closer to the truth. The Global Elite
wanted people to believe that anyone could be tricked to believe
whatever they are told, and business goes on as usual.
Many who stumble upon something like
Hufschmid's article and start researching it, sooner or later
will also stumble upon "Moon Landing A Fake Or Fact?" and
thereafter think that conspiracy theorists are quite a crazy
Of course, not everybody gets fooled! When people like Kissinger
et al come out in the open like this, it's a
Flag! Something is definitely wrong
with that picture.
We should also be aware of that there
are theories that man was on the moon long before the Apollo
Mission, and that Apollo was just a cover up to get people used
to the idea that we are capable of space travel. These theories
are outside the scope of this book, so for now, let's stay with
the Apollo Program.
Here is my own theory of what happened
with the manned moon landings.
The first part of the story is true.
Kubrick was contacted and the deal was made—the fake filming in
the studio really happened. However, it was not meant to be used
for the purpose Kubrick was told. NASA already knew they could
put as many men on the moon before the end of the decade—that
was not the problem.
There are indications which we will
bring up and look into more later in this paper that it could
very well be that we had been to the moon much earlier and found
something astonishing there, which was never made public. NASA
wanted to send an expedition to the moon, so they could further
investigate what was there. Hence, they needed a mix of real and
fake photos and live videos, because they knew beforehand that
the astronauts would find and see things that would be on
camera, but not meant for public view. This is where Kubrick's
film clips came in, so they could compensate for that.
Now the question
is, did Armstrong and others who followed find what NASA was
looking for on the moon? There is some evidence that they did,
but what was it? This, too, has been brought to public, as we
shall see. Also, some reports on UFOs seen by astronauts when
they went to the Moon are now in public domain.
My own take on this is therefore that
man actually went to the moon as scheduled, but many of the
films and pictures from the Apollo missions are fake to cover up
what the astronauts actually saw and experienced. In fact, I
think they were on the moon more often than we are told, until
we were eventually "kicked out". Someone there did not want us
to interfere with them. But who were they?
When the truth about Kubrick’s
involvement in all this started coming out because of a few
investigative reporters, Henry Kissinger and others, who were
personally involved in this whole project and still happened to
be alive, had to safe their own backs and they did it very
cleverly. They produced the movie, “Astronauts Gone Wild”, which
told the truth almost to the minute, but left out what they
actually found on the moon.
Now, here comes the clever part! When
the movie was over, it showed the cast on a black screen as
usual, so people would think the film was over, The Elitists,
who were interviewed in the movie (such as Kissinger and
Alexander Haig), knew very well that many conspiracy “theorists”
would at that point already be overly excited and turn off the
video, then starting to spread the message all over the Internet
that the moon landings were fake. This was exactly per the plan!
For a while, people who read the
websites of different truth-seekers, will then believe that the
truth-seekers were right all the time and glorify them. However,
what these truth-seekers missed was that after the cast was
shown on the screen, there were “outtake clips”, showing the
Elitists reading from scripts exactly what they had talked about
in the video. Some of these famous people even laughed and said
something to the effect that “I had such a hard time remembering
my script!” Also, the spouse of the then deceased Kubrick, was
filmed rehearsing her part of the script.
Just as anticipated, many truth-seekers stepped right into the
trap! They announced the moon landings as being fake, but soon
enough others, who happened to watch the video
where the cast was shown, then
debunked the truth-seekers, showing it was all a script and pure
science fiction, created by the same Elitists the truth-seekers
had accused as being the people involved in the fake moon
landings cover-up. In an instance, many truth-seekers were
debunked and lost their credibility, at least to a certain
degree. The moral of this film, said the debunkers, was
basically that the Elitists wanted to show the public how easy
it is to come to wrong conclusions and to be fooled.
What most people missed was the final
twist! All the above is true, but what about if in fact
Kubrick’s and the Elitists involvement in using fake footage
from the moon landings is actually true, but by twisting and
turning the story like Kissinger and others did, it purposely
confused the matter even more, and it looked like the whole
story was made up when it wasn’t. I think it was a brilliant
move of the Globalists, and moreover, it worked!
So, to conclude: the way I see it is
that Kubrick was actually involved in all this, but the moon
landings did take place, although there was a much more advanced
moon program “running in the background”, so to speak, not
mentioned to the public. Hence, much of the footage we were
shown from space and from the moon was Kubrick’s creation.
Instead, the astronauts were concentrating on Above Top Secret
programs that only a few had access to. The astronauts
themselves were just puppets in the game and did not have the
security clearance required for such missions, so therefore,
their memories of what they experienced in space and on the moon
If you think
this is farfetched, please think again. Today, there are
soldiers, like Green Berets and others, who are sent out on Top
Secret, and above Top Secret mission, often involving ETs, and
afterwards their memories are wiped out. Some of these soldiers
are now starting to remember some of the horrors they were
experiencing, and nightmares become reality—they realize that
their horror dreams from their missions are actually true! Some
of these “Super Soldiers” have been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy
and Bill Ryan at Project Camelot.
We can imagine that this whole subject
is a hot potato if the Global Elite members themselves are
making a movie for the public, which seems to reveal
disinformation regarding their whereabouts, when in fact they
are spreading even more disinformation. This reason alone should
get anyone interested in this subject.
Colonel William Rutledge is an 80+ years
old man who lives in Rwanda, former employed by Bell
Laboratories, NASA, and the USAF. He says he has worked on at
least two moon missions, the failed Apollo 19, and Apollo 20. He
says the Apollo 20 mission was actually launched in 1976 from
Vandenberg Air Force Base.
Both of these
missions were what Rutledge calls "classified joint Space
Missions" and were collaborations between the U.S. and the
Soviets. We cannot read about these two missions
anywhere in NASA's archives, and if this is true (and it
certainly looks like it is, as we shall see), it's for good
reasons. What these two joint missions found was not something
they could reveal to the public—nothing of it. And they knew
before they launched that they were going to find something
remarkable on the Moon—thus the secrecy already from the
Figure 4. Alien
spacecraft, allegedly found on the Moon by the Apollo 15 crew.
The purpose of
both these missions was to investigate a large object on the
back side of the Moon, in the Delporte-Izsak Region, which is
supposed to have been discovered and photographed by the Apollo
15 crew. Allegedly, this was a very large craft
which seems to have crashed on the moon’s surface in ancient
The next two pictures (figures 5 and 6)
show the location where they found the craft.
Figure 5. The crashed
spaceship on the Moon and a map of its location.
Figure 6. A broader
view of the location around the spaceship.
As the reader may already have figured
out, if this is a spacecraft, it’s huge. Looking at figure 6,
where the ship is shown from a distance, we can see the
size better, compared to the environment (enlarge the image).
The Ramistrip.com website actually measured
the alien ship, and they have released an imagine showing its
real size, and it's quite mind-blowing—it’s like huge like a
Figure 7. The size of
the ship spaceship.
However, what looks like craters from
the middle part toward the left in the picture appear like holes in a giant rock when
space by space rocks. That was my first impression
when I looked at these pictures, but what is it that’s glued to
the “rock” on top of this alleged craft, above the “Eiffel
Tower”? That part certainly doesn’t look like something normally
attached to a regular rock. Interesting to mention here is that
the Alien Invader Force uses uses hollowed out craft, created
from asteroids and similar.
Since April 2007, Col. Rutledge has been disclosing information
and spread a lot of video and photographic material on YouTube
about the presumed Apollo 20 space mission. His user name on
YouTube used to be “retiredafb”, but there is only one video
published there at this moment. He has been harassed and his
info tampered with, and even the websites he tried to maintain
have been shut down. The quite famous former NASA employee
Richard C. Hoagland has popularized this story by addressing
this encounter on this website,
The next two questions, if this really
is a spacecraft, would be: what was inside of it? Was someone
able to get inside of this monstrous construction? As it
appears, we do have the answers to them!
Col. Rutledge claims that Apollo 20,
which also carried the Soviet cosmonaut, Alexey Leonov, he says,
landed a Soviet Lunar module near the spaceship, left their own
craft, which must have looked like an ant in comparison to the
Figure 7. Soviet
cosmonaut, Alexey Leonov.
The story doesn’t tell what kind of
precautions the crew took before they let Leonov and Rutledge
proceed, away from the Earth module, but on the other hand,
there weren’t much precautions they could have taken, with
probably only two people onboard the module. After all, they had
the pictures from Apollo 15, apparently, and the ship obviously
hadn’t moved one inch since then, which indicated that it was
The decision must have been that Leonov
and Rutledge proceeded together, leaving the module unmanned,
but probably close to the ship, ready to return to it as soon as
possible if something went really awry.
The story doesn’t tell, either, how they
managed to get into the ship, but somehow they did. I am certain
NASA has photos or videos with better resolution than the ones
we have at our convenience, and in that case they may have known
exactly where the entrance was, and how to most likely enter the ship. I am sure that failure to do so was taken
well into consideration, and perhaps not many NASA people really
thought Leonov and Rutledge would succeed.
Somehow, the astronaut and the cosmonaut
got into the ship. I can only imagine the eerie feeling that
must have followed going into a seemingly abandoned ship on an
alien world, having no idea what they were going to find. It
would require great courage to do this without an entire crew members following them, but unfortunately, that was out of
What the two crew members found inside
the “ark” was way beyond what anyone could have expected. Col. Rutledge explains (I apologize
beforehand to the readers for the sometimes bad English in the
quoted sections. The person who interviewed William Rutledge is Italian. His name is Luca Scantamburlo, and he admits
to that he had some problems with typing up the transcript. The
following is an excerpt from a complete interview, which is
published later on in this chapter.):
inside the big spaceship, also into a triangular one. The major
parts of the exploration was; it was a mother ship, very old,
who crossed the universe at least [a] milliard of years ago (1.5 estimated). There were
many signs of biology inside, old remains of a vegetation in a
“motor” section, special triangular rocks who emitted “tears” of
a yellow liquid which has some special medical properties, and
of course signs of extra solar creatures. We found remains of
little bodies (10cm) living in a network of glass tubes all
along the ship, but the major discovery was two bodies, one
The “City” was named on Earth and
scheduled as station one, but it appeared to be a real space
garbage, full of scrap, gold parts, only one construction seemed
intact (we named it the Cathedral). We made shots of pieces of
metal, of every part wearing calligraphy, exposed to the sun.
The “City” seem to be as old as the ship, but it is a very tiny
part. On the rover video, the telephotolens make the artifacts
remember who named the girl, Leonov or me — was the intact EBE.
Humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized, haired, six fingers
(we guess that mathematics are based on a dozen). Function;
pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes, we
had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostril. Leonov
unfixed the eyes device (you’ll see that in the video).
concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted and froze from the
mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body. Some parts of the
body were in unusual good condition, (hair) and the skin was
protected by a thin transparent protection layer. As we told to
mission control, condition seemed not dead not alive. We had no
medical background or experience, but Leonov and I used a test,
we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by
surgeon (Mission Control meds) was positive. That’s another
story. Some parts could be unbelievable now, I prefer tell the
whole story when other videos will be online. This experience
has been filmed in the LM (Lunar Module,
editor’s note). We
found a second body, destroyed, we brought the head on board.
Color of the skin was blue gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some
strange details above the eyes and the front, a strap around the
head, wearing no inscription. The “cockpit” was full of
calligraphy and formed of long semi hexagonal tubes. She is on
Earth and she is not dead, but I prefer to post other videos
before telling what happened after.
In 2007 there was a big frenzy on the
Internet regarding Col. Rutledge's information, and people
discussed it back and forth; was it all a hoax? Was it
disinformation? Maybe a cover up for something else? Did an
involved party let information out that was partly true and
partly false with the purpose of starting this debate in order
to pressure certain others to disclose the truth of the matter?
In spite of all the twists and turns in
the debate, it came back to where it started—there
was too many clues indicating that it’s not a hoax, and that
these events actually took place.
There is also some evidence that Alexei
Leonov was part of the US/Soviet joint space mission. In fig. 9
we can clearly see when Leonov with a US/Soviet flag. This
corresponds very well with a picture Luca Scanbamburlo manage
to get from USSR-AIRSPACE.COM and placed on his page (fig. 10).
These two pictures confirm Col. Rutledge’s story quite well.
Rutledge also posted a video of the lift-off of Apollo Saturn V,
which was its complete name, online back in 2007 (fig. 11).
Unfortunately, I don’t have access to the video itself.
Figure 11. Frame
from the footage, "APOLLO 20 Legacy liftoff" of Apollo 20 Saturn
V, added on YouTube by "retiredafb" on April 9,
Interesting is also something else Apollo 15 supposedly
photographed on the Moon. They found ruins of something they
couldn't explain what it was. The Apollo crew ended up calling a
part of it
although it wasn't a cathedral at all. Researchers here on
Earth, who saw the following video after the fact, called it
Personally, I have learnt that it
allegedly is something else; it's a "transmitter". Back in 2011,
when I first researched this whole part of the first chapter, I
was in almost daily contact with Life Physics Group California
(LPG-C), which was a group of seven retired quantum physicists,
who in their retired years were looking into the
extraterrestrial (ET) presence on our planet. This group is now
dissolved, but the seven members are still working together on
similar projects, but more behind the scenes for now.
LPG-C was more
than an exopolitical group—they had real ET contacts. To the readers who
are interested, there are essays, which I posted on website,
written by this group, which more closely tell the readers about
what they see as their mission.
When I showed Dr. A.R. Bordon, the head scientist of
this group, the picture of “The City” (see video link below), he
immediately knew what it was from his contact with the AIF. He
told me that a similar transmitter is located in the African
jungle, and that it is some kind of transmitter, or
communication device. This is all he told he at the time, but it
means that if it is correct, this is evidence that the AIF has
(or at least had in the past), a base on the moon. However, “The
City” is totally unrelated to the Mona Lisa story, according to
Dr. Bordon, who said that Mona Lisa belongs to the “Mongolian
species”, which does
refer to the human Mongolian race.
Col. William Rutledge was playing with
fire when he released this material—understandably so if the
information is true, and he was racing against time to get the material
out before NASA, the NSA, CIA etc., started taking
counter-actions in serious attempt to debunk and discredit him,
which they did, after the initial publication of this material.
Rutledge was afraid they would take his usernames, copy his
material, and insert disinformation to convince the researcher
that this is a hoax.
Rwanda, this elderly man with severe arthritis in his fingers,
still made himself available for some email interviews (but
mostly YouTube interviews, where he used his YouTube email
program to answer questions). I don't know how many interviews
he gave before he "disappeared", but one which is still
available is Luca Scanbamburlo's correspondence with the
colonel. This one is important, because Rutledge's
knowledge gives a lot of credibility to this story. Therefore, I
am republishing it here in full. The foreword is written by Mr.
FOREWORD FOR THE READERS
In the following interview granted by
William Rutledge who lives now in Africa, I have corrected
(where I could) the orthographical mistakes that there were in
the answers (e.g. I put the right capital letters and the right
apostrophes), but I did not change the syntactical construction
of the sentences made by William Rutledge. Where I was not able
to understand his words, I put some dots between square
W. Rutledge told me he is now an old man
with some problems to the his articulations; moreover, William
explained to me that he’s always nervous when he writes. That’s
why on YouTube you can find some mistakes in his comments (user
name: retiredafb) posted with the footages. Anyway, here you are
some words written by him for the foreword to the following
“I don’t use English since 1990 but
Kinyarwanda and French, and I write quickly, sometimes letters
are missing because I’m busy writing the next one, or it is
another on the keyboard which is used, but that’s a detail…”
1) L.S. First of all I want to
thank you for your time and availability. It means a lot for me
and, I guess, for all the people around the world, very curious
about what it is going on YouTube after the release of your
amazing video footages and information on the presumed “Apollo
20” space mission. Now we can begin our interview. Because of my
professional activity, I will start from a skeptical point of
view. So please, I kindly ask you to understand it. You will
have the space to answer and for explaining your reasons.
What is your name? How old are you and are you an American
citizen? Sometimes your written English contains some
orthographical mistakes… Are you forgetting your language rules
(e.g., you wrote “maicroscope” instead of “microscope”)?
Somebody on the Web said you do not seem (considering your
writings) an American-English native land…
W.R. I'm not offended, I like to answer
to skeptics, you cannot imagine what kind of messages I receive.
That’s my name, William Rutledge, no Standford Rutledge, it's
another one. Born in 1930 in Belgium, American citizen, I know
about mistakes, I'm writing too fast with arthrose problems and
I'm always nervous when I'm writing, it's like trying to contain
a flow of water. I'm not accustomed to speak in English anymore
since 1990. I have learned Kinyarwanda and use French, sometimes
German because Rwanda is a former Belgium-German colony.
2) L.S. How long have you been living in
Rwanda and why did you move over there?
W.R.It 's a woman who brought me to
Rwanda, maybe I was searching for somebody like one person who
shared my life before. Personally speaking, I have always been
sensible to Africa born women. (Buzz Aldrin was also sensible,
he was the only astronaut participating in a walk after martin
Luther King's death, it’s not a well known story). I established
myself with a new identity in Kigali in 1990, streets have no
names here. I stayed in Nyiamirambo quarter till 1994, war
pushed me to the north west of the country, near the Congo
Kinshasa frontier. Rwandan authorities do not know my past, my
3)L.S. Can you tell me anything about your
life? Where are you from? Where did you study ?
W.R.I've written on this on my others
answers, Avro, Chance Vought, just consider that USAF uses every
person who can bring skills, white, black, woman, every citizen.
It was different with NASA, all astronauts were West Point
students, only Alan Bean was an artist, Armstrong was a
philosopher and Aldrin a spiritual man.
4) L.S.How did you become an astronaut with
NASA (I suppose) in the ‘70s?
W.R. NASA didn't employ me, USAF did, I
had worked on the study of foreign technology, RUSSIAN only,
study about the N1 project, AJAX plane project and the Mig
Foxbat 25. I had some skills for using computer navigation and
was a volunteer for the MOL-Gemini project. USAF recalled that,
I have been chosen later for Apollo 20 because I was one of the
rare pilot who didn't believe in God (it has changed since 1990)
but it was a criterion in 1976. It was not the status of the
NASA astronauts. Not believing in God made the difference.
5) L.S.Can you prove who you are with some
photos or documents of yours, taken during the training by NASA
or even before, during your work at the Bell Laboratories? Can
you send them to me as attachments, for a publication?
W.R.Yes, I will put them online, but I
will focus on Leonov, to end hoax controversy.
6) L.S.When and above all why did you decide
to disclose these information about classified space missions
and is there anybody who is protecting you?
W.R. It's the announcement of "the wonder
of it all" maybe, and 2012 is coming fast. I also think that
UFOs will appear more often starting from September 2007. A lot
of people died around me in Rwanda, and I have more time to take
care of this. About protection, please understand it's hard to
speak of my armoury.
7) L.S.After the “Apollo 20” mission, taken
place in August 1976 according to the information you have
provided, what did you do and when did you leave the U.S.A. ?
W.R.After Apollo 20, several things
happened, I was not aware of how the material collected would be
used. I thought Space Shuttle was a bad idea, I’ve worked on the
KH 11 project before retiring.
8) L.S.In your writings provided on YouTube
you mentioned the members of the “Apollo 20” crew: among them
there is the former Soviet cosmonaut, Alexei Leonov. I remember
he is still alive. Does he know what you are doing on the Web?
Did you talk with him before April 2007 and if the answer is no,
aren’t you afraid about what he could do or tell?
W.R.Leonov is not aware of all this , I
cannot contact him, contacts were completely lost in 1982-1984,
I went to the Ural in 1995 or 1994, can't recall, responding to
an invitation, but it was a mess here, I crossed Moscow when
tanks were shooting the Russian parliament. Cant' imagine his
reaction. If he discovers the videos without preparation, he can
confirm or leave at once. If he is warned, and prepared, he can
9) L.S.A question about the dialogues
subtitles on the “spaceship footage”: did you make them or did
somebody else make them? There are some mistakes (e.g., the
personal pronoun is “I”, with the capital letter, not “i” as
there is written). What about the original dialogues? Were there
in the footage? Did you have problems with the codecs during the
W.R. Yes, plenty of problems, subtitles
are made just before transfer, I have to work with the distance,
I'll be back in Rwanda in July. I asked to put the flyover very
quickly, they made the subtitles in one hour, buried instead of
burried, aperture to 1.8 is not at the right place, there are
mistakes but is does not shock me. The Apollo 11 mention at the
beginning of the film surprised me, it is on the original film,
one internaut signaled that to me. The films are not the first
generation, some of them were copied in 1982 I'm sure of this,
some have a blue background from the end of the 70's.
10) L.S. There are in the dialogues between
the astronauts and the Mission Control, some expressions that I
do not understand: for instance, “CSM”, “DSKY” and “Vandenberg
Twenty”. I could think that “DSKY” is about the position on the
Moon (close to the Izsak crater) and that the “Vandenberg
Twenty” is about the Mission Control, located by the Vandeberg
Air Force Base, in California. Can you explain them?
W.R. CSM is Command Service Module, DSKY
was the computer "display keyboard", we used many acronyms. AGC
is Apollo Guidance Computer, same that DSKY, but located in the
Apollo spacecraft and coupled with a telescope ( […] on the LM).
In some videos, the first image
you see is the DSKY panel with lines prog indicates the program
running verb and noun verb indicates what the DSKY has to do and
show. Before filming I had to enter verb 15 (display MET,
mission elapsed time, or hours minutes seconds since lift-off,
then noun 65 for displaying on there rows, hours on the first
line minutes on the second, and seconds/tens of seconds on the
third line). Then in every movie we put the date on the
beginning of the shot, MET, Mission Elapsed Time, hours since
lift-off. In the flyover movie, the computer indicates 144 hours
if I remember.
Capcom (CC) is the function
of the unique officer charged of transmission to astronauts. He
gathers all information and transmit them to the astronauts,
news from the ground, instructions for the corrections, wake up
calls, three persons relay.
The syntax was "Vandenberg"
calling Vandenberg next "twenty" a call from twenty. Inverted
when starting from Earth: Capcom- Twenty or sometimes EEcom-
Twenty Guido - Twenty when we had a special work to do, docking,
correction. When undocking was made the communications were
different. Vandenberg Constellation (name of the Apollo
spacecraft); Vandenberg Phoenix (name of the LM). The Apollo 19
Apollo spacecraft was Endymion and Artemis was the Lunar Module
11) L.S.I would like to know something more
about the preparation of the “Apollo 20” mission. From where and
when the Saturn rocket was launched and how many people were
involved in that classified mission. Can you do some names?
W.R.300 people were involved on the
preparation, but more other witnesses in Vandenberg. It was
launched from this AFB. More witnesses, yes, many people saw
departures in the sky, cameras were forbidden all around the
Vandenberg site, but today a lot of Space spotters film every
launch of Delta rockets, from towns. Other people saw this
launch but not knowing it was a Saturn 5. One internaut viewing
the launch video says this launch is a Saturn 1B. If today, with
all available information, somebody makes such a mistake, you
can image how it was in 1976. The preparation was long, subject
of cancellations, new starts. Russians had the first information
since 1966, I don't know what was their source.
12) L.S.Can you tell me anything about the
Russian collaboration to “Apollo 20”?
W.R.James Chipman Fletcher for USA and
Valentin Alexeiev for Russia, Werner Von Braun was one of the
happy viewer. Capcom were Charles Peter Conrad and James Irwin.
13) L.S.Tell me something about the “Apollo
18” and the “Apollo 19” missions; specially about the last one
and its failure. Was it a classified mission with the same goal
of the “Apollo 20”? Tell me about your ex girlfriend, Stephanie
Ellis, “first American woman in Space” according to what you
wrote to me in a former letter. The official space history does
not include her as astronaut…
W.R. Apollo 18 was the Apollo-Soyuz
project, the honeymoon before a moon landing mission, it was
presented as a simple "shaking hands " mission in 1975. Apollo
19 and 20 were hazardous missions. On long duration flight the
helium pressure was too high on the LEM, a security disk had to
burst if pressure was going high, but motor was unusable after.
So it was changed on Apollo 19 and 20, but not tested in Space
before. It was ok, but… in the paper. However, we got no problem
with it. It was a long mission, 7 days scheduled on the Moon,
every ray of light was used till ascent.
Apollo 19 had a loss of
telemetry, a brutal end of mission without data. Now the truth
is unknown but it seems that it was a natural phenomenon, a
collision with a "quasi-satellite ", like Cruithne, or a meteor
(the probability is higher I think). The goal was the same, the
landing site was the same, the exploration program was
different, they had a big job to do with the rover, exploring
the roof of the ship by climbing on the "Monaco hill", (I'll
have to put a lunar map online). NO American astronaut is
listes, I discovered since may that many people find many
William Rultledge in NASA. I can be found in the list of the
Test pilots of Chance Vought, on the consultant list of the
James Forrestal Center, I was involved in fluid mechanics. My
boss was Bogdanoff (nothing in common with the Bogdanoff
Stephanie Ellis was born in
Abidjan (Ivory Coast) in 1946, arrived in America at the age of
7 months. She was a LM specialist, she worked with Grumman
Bethpage for new implementations on the navigation system of the
LM (Note that LM15 was officially destructed by Grumman). She
contributed to debug the Luminary program, who was never bug
free. Apollo 19 and 20 had serious problems with docking and
rendez-vous. Her technical knowledge was as deep as Roger
Chaffee. She was a wonderful and funny person. I have some
pictures of her in the LEM and Ingress 16 mm footage. I'll not
show the other members of the crew.
Russian collaborations; I don't
know how, but Russian were informed of the presence of a ship on
the far side. Luna 15 in July 1969 crashed just at the South of
the nose of the ship. It was a probe similar to Ranger or Lunar
Orbiter. They provided maps, precise charts of this area. The
center of decision was located in the Ural, in the town of
Sverdlovsk. The chief of the program was professor Valentin
Alekseiev, who became later president of the academy of science
in Ural. Leonov was chosen because of his popularity in the
communist leading staff, and secondary only because he was on
Apollo-Soyuz. In 1994, I met again Valentin Alekseiev in Ural,
Yekaterinburg, and he had a model of the spaceship made of
malachite with incrustations of gold on his desk.
I could tell you 100 stories
about how Russians wanted to impress us. For example, when I
came to the Academy of the Ural for the first time, my feet
sticked on the ground, they had put varnish on the floor, not
dried, for showing us new offices, they did all this "the
Russian way", quickly, with quantity, not completely ready.
14) L.S.Is there anybody in U.S.A., Russia or
in Europe that can confirm your story? And are you not afraid
that somebody can threaten your friends or relatives?
W.R. In USA, honestly I don't know who is
living now. Conrad died a strange way I think, his death was
awful. Irwin is dead, von Braun also I think. James Fletcher.
Leona Marietta Snyder is alive and communicates and support me
in this job. In Russia, Valentin Alekseiev, and Alexei Leonov.
Leonov is retired, I'm not sure of this but his health is a
security, no problem as far I live in Rwanda, I only have
problem now in Europe, my family is dead. I went to Rwanda in
1990, and stayed during 3 wars, the April-July 1994 were the
worst years of my life, but I have now true friends in the
Tootsie community and Government. (I'm not known in Rwanda as
William Rutledge and American citizen, I have a whole new life).
I kept my moon flag, beta cloth
name, and moon al7b equipment with original dust.
15) L.S. What did you know about the
unofficial Warwick Research Institute Report on the “Public
Acclimation Program”, released in 1992 to the MUFON?
W.R.I have no knowledge of this report,
1992 was a very hard year for me, I was disconnected from all
this, can you give me a link?
16) L.S. Now we can discuss the ancient
“alien spaceship” and “the City” on the farside of the Moon. Did
you go inside the spaceship? How big was it and what did you
W.R.We went inside the big spaceship, also
into a triangular one. The major parts of the exploration was;
it was a mother ship, very old, who crossed the universe at
least milliard of years ago (1.5 estimated). There were many
signs of biology inside, old remains of a vegetation in a
"motor" section, special triangular rocks who emitted "tears" of
a yellow liquid which has some special medical properties, and
of course signs of extra solar creatures. We found remains of
little bodies (10cm) living in a network of glass tubes all
along the ship, but the major discovery was two bodies, one
Figure 12. The alien
spacecraft, allegedly photographed by the Apollo 20 crew. [Photo
17) L.S. Did you visit “the City” on the Moon?
Where was it? Did you understand if was there a connection with
the Space ship? Are “the City” and “the Ship” still there?
"City" was named on Earth and scheduled as station one, but it
appeared to be a real space garbage, full of scrap, gold parts,
only one construction seemed intact (we named it the Cathedral).
We made shots of pieces of metal, of every part wearing
calligraphy, exposed to the sun. The "City" seem to be as old as
the ship, but it is a very tiny part. On the rover video, the
telephotolens make the artifacts greater.
18) L.S. What about the “Mona Lisa EBE”? [the correct
Italian name is “Mona Lisa”] How does she look like and where
was she at that time, when you found out her on the Moon. Where
do you think she is now?
Lisa – I don’t remember who named the girl, Leonov or me - was
the intact EBE. Humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized,
haired, six fingers (we guess that mathematics are based on a
dozen). Function; pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and
eyes, no clothes, we had to cut two cables connected to the
nose. No nostril. Leonov unfixed the eyes device (you'll see
that in the video). concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted
and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body.
Some parts of the body were in unusual good condition, (hair)
and the skin was protected by a thin transparent protection
layer. As we told to mission control, condition seemed not dead
not alive. We had no medical background or experience, but
Leonov and I used a test, we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE,
and telemetry received by surgeon (Mission Control meds) was
positive. That’s another story. Some parts could be unbelievable
now, I prefer tell the whole story when other videos will be
online. This experience has been filmed in the LM. We found a
second body, destroyed, we brought the head on board. Color of
the skin was blue gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some strange
details above the eyes and the front, a strap around the head,
wearing no inscription. The "cockpit" was full of calligraphy
and formed of long semi hexagonal tubes. She is on Earth and she
is not dead, but I prefer to post other videos before telling
what happened after.
Figure 12a. Mona-Lisa
19) L.S. Were you able to understand the origin of
the spacecraft and how old was it?
age was estimated to 1.5 milliards of years, it was confirmed
during exploration, we found ejections from the original crust,
anorthosite, spirals in feldspathoids, coming from the impact
which formed Izsak D; The density of meteor impacts on the ship
validated the age, also little white impacts on the Monaco hill
at the West of the ship...
20-21 L.S. Can you give me the technical details
for every material you disclosed on YouTube? I mean, can you
distinguish among the tv transmissions from the Lunar rover and
the camera footages, during the flyovers? I would need to know
the details of shooting for every video you spread on the Web.
What is the meaning of the strange numbers visibile on the
videos, which sometimes slowly stream over the frames, in the
flyover of the Moon?
W.R. I have answered so much time on this, especially
to a ESA astronaut. The transfer was in made in Rwanda, […] with
codec and sound recuperation is not good, but it becomes better.
The subtitles are not genuine, but put on the videos after
transfer. I asked to remove the voices sometimes to protect one
person from mission control.
We used three video cameras in Apollo, one on the rover,
called GTCA, it is not the name of a company (a commenter made a
mistake on this) but a Westinghouse color camera. All three
color cameras has a color wheel who produced a time frame delay
when transmitting to the earth. I think it could be possible for
a company to restore a good TV picture. The CSM camera had a
black and white monitor, and produced stable pictures, sharp
because focusig was visible on the monitor. The LM camera had a
glass visor. The CSM camera was used one time on the AGC Visor,
using the coordinates I've transmitted during the flyover video.
The Flyover video was made in zero gravity. I was located on the
left window, attitude horizontal, legs around the hammock, lens
on the polycarbonate glass. The cameras had a Vidicon tube
sensible with light, a large quantity of light, or changing the
diaphragms put dropouts during transmission. The markings,
numbers are used to perform a good landing. During program 64,
when […] in almost in vertical attitude, we had to put the "60"
number on the landing site and hold it on the target minutes
before landing. These marks are on the both […] windows, you can
verify it on a NASA site. Please verify on a genuine NASA site,
(I got a flame by somebody who verified on the Apollo 13 movie)
the markings had a special angle inclination. If you check it,
you'll have an idea of my precise position during this sequence.
Figure 12b. Mona-Lisa's face.
22) L.S. How did you get years ago the copies of the
footages of the mission?
W.R. About the footages […] one day, someone I know
told me he was charged to maintain security around a container.
A building had to be destroyed, and archives had to be burn by a
plasma torch. The nuclear power plant didn’t deliver energy at
the right price, so the container was plenty of interest things
during some days. As human is naturally curious, people charged
of security went inside… My friend took video films, a couple of
16 mm plates, boxes of B/W paper, two enlargers… He contacted me
for selling the unsued paper, and that’s how I discovered the
other things. I’ve already seen some picture before, 11*16
pictures were violet/blue, old RC photographies, I watched the
tapes , it was not a business affair, I put them in security,
the only important thing for me were the BW sheets of paper. It
was 15 years ago.
you ever met Clark McClelland, former NASA engineer who lost his
job years ago because of what he discovered at the KSC (I
suppose alien bodies or alien objects from the Space)?
you can give me the links. Documents can be at KSC, but no
bodies or alien craft I think.
24) L.S. You mentioned in a former letter C. M. and
M. Who are they?
M. is the website officer on Oceans NASA site [http://oceancolor.gsfc.nasa.gov];
M. also. A. M. is 508 Coordinator. I only have mail exchange
with Johnson Space Center for the moment. There is a moment of
panic I think since May 18. Check 508 coordinator NASA on a
search engine. Statement 508 is the way of pushing NASA to
declassify material. I expected a reaction.
Luca >>> it is a part of my strategy, NASA has the right to
block me if I download unauthorized information. If they explain
why they block me, they recognize that the videos can be
obtained from them. If I sue them for violation of Statement
508, they will be forced to prove I downloaded unauthorized
material , and it's not the case, I never go on a NASA site.
Since May 18, I have not a precise answer, I have to wait
for a decision from the headquarters.
Even as Italian citizen, you have the right to ask for
material from a federal agency like NASA, see 508 Statement:
25-26) L.S. Aren’t you afraid of the U.S.
Government’s reaction and why did you talk about the date of
September 2007, when NASA and USAF (according to you) “will be
forced to tell the whole story before September 2007” What does
it mean and Who is your “deep throat”? In another recent your
communication to me, you talked about the “2012” year. You said:
“In 2012, the weakers will die, and governments preserve the
only bit of their heritage […] everybody has to be prepared for
2012”. Is there any connection with the “Planet X” return (the
ancient Nibiru, adored by the Sumerians in Mesopotamia) ? What
did you know about it?
the deep throat. What can NASA USAF do now? Blocking or suing me
would be an acknowledgement. They can speak of hoax or fiction.
I'm just afraid they could open a site or another account with
my name or putting almost perfect false videos with voluntary
errors to disinform. Fortunately, bureaucracy and time works for
me. It's a race.
That's why the idea of putting the Leonov files is a good
idea, no controversy anymore, there are no Leonov footage, no
videos of this period of Leonov in a LM or on a USA USAF base.
It is unthinkable related to the official version .
am a passionate of the Sumerian period, of the Genesis as
related by Sumerian. They clearly explain how gods created man.
But I have no indications on Sumerian cosmogony, send me some
There is a question you didn't ask for and I'm
always surprised that nobody does. This could be your question
27 - why is it necessary to hide UFOs, why disinformation, why
putting all this under the carpet? It's question of economics.
All currencies on Earth are based on the value of gold. Not many
citizens know that but gold is an extraterrestrial metal coming
from the death of a star. When a star is dying, its mass is
growing, atoms are compressed and when the star explodes, it
spreads large amounts of gold in young solar systems. That's why
gold is not a mineral to treat but a perfect, carbon free metal.
This mean that it is the most common substance in the universe,
no more value than a piece of plastic.
That's enough to put down all world currencies. Imagine also
that an EBE says: "coffee has a good taste, rare in this
galaxy", the only perspective of trading coffee through universe
would displace the economic power to countries of the South in
one day. You see, not a problem of panic, but simply a problem
enough, in 2008, another whistle-blower contacted Luca
Scantamburlo, calling himself “Moonwalker1966Delta”. He claimed
to be the Commander of Apollo 19—a survivor from that mission.
Because Rutledge had revealed his story a year earlier,
“Moonwalker1966Delta” decided to do the same. The interview is
posted on Scantamburlo’s website.
I am not going to quote that whole
article in this paper—we don’t have space for that,but I will
paraphrase what this astronaut said. He was basically verifying
what Col. Rutledge had said one year earlier, except for a few
details. He confirmed that Apollo 19 was landing in the same
area as Apollo 20. He even named the crew he was working with,
such as the female astronaut, Stephanie Ellis, who supposedly
died in a training accident in 1975. Moonwalker1966Delta
(Moonwalker) gives hints that it may not have been an accident
because Ellis apparently had a tendency to talk a lot about this
moon mission, which was highly classified. Another participant
in the Apollo 19 project was apparently a Soviet cosmonaut,
Aleksei Sorokin, and an American astronaut, John Swigert, Jr, born
in 1931 and dead in 1982, supposedly from cancer. Moonwalker
also confirms that he met Col. William Rutledge at the time when
they were preparing for the Apollo 20 mission.
At one point,
Rutledge had told Luca Scantamburlo in confidence that the
Apollo 20 crew, besides Alexei Leonov and William Rutledge
consisted of Charles Peter Conrad, with James Irwin as CAPCOM.
Irwin was also the Lunar Module Pilot on the Apollo 15 Mission,
when they first saw and took shots of the alien spaceships on
In fact, according to Moonwalker, Apollo
19 had as its mission to explore two triangular craft, located
south of the main mothership, the mothership herself, and the
alien moon base located south-west of the mothership. Moonwalker
confirms that the mothership and the two smaller craft seem to
fit together, or at least be of the same age. It looked to the
crew like this moon base had been subjected to a cosmic “Pearl
Harbor”—it was utterly destroyed, and the mothership and the
smaller triangular craft seemed to have been shot down in some
emergency take-off. This is exactly the same conclusions Leonov
and Rutledge made, according to both Moonwalker and
Moonwalker even gives us the coordinates
for the two triangular spaceships in AS15-P-9625 and
AS15-P-9630, in the upper side of the picture and just right of
the mothership at coordinates 18.7S - 116.92E and 18.31S -
117.48E. Moonwalker says we should be able to see that they are
absolutely identical in their triangular shape. If you use a
software like NASA World Wind it could be easy to locate them
and notice the green metallic brilliance of the first object, he
says. The only problem I have here is that I can’t locate the
picture. I am aware of that pictures and videos were put up on
YouTube and elsewhere during 2007-2008, but many were taken down
again when the NASA astronauts got “cold feet”.
Scantamburlo comments on some other coordinates left by
Moonwalker, but apparently he was able to locate the objects.
However, not until the coordinates had been fine jousted. Here
is the conversation betweenScantamburlo and Moonwalker when they
were trying to locate the objects. L.S. is Luca Scantamburlo,
the freelance reporter (I have made no comment here on specific
misspellings and grammar errors):
L.S.Lunar coordinates of the presumed alien
space mothership: Nose 17.3 deg S, 117.62 deg E; Cockpit 17.15
deg S, 117.62 deg E; Base 17.20 deg S, 117.62 deg E. Were they
given us inverted? The longitude is coherent with the position
of the huge object (approximately 4 km long). The problem is
with the latitude: not with the latitude data, but with their
reference to the major parts of the object (the nose and the
base). We should have their reversal, in my opinion. What do you
Moonwalker1966delta: We had to do the
same footage and follow the same path. If you follow the path of
the LM in the first part of the footage and compare it on a
lunar map you will see that is coherent with the subtitles and
the camera we had to use would have been a 16mm Maurer motion
picture cameras with 10mm lenses with the Data Acquisition
Camera Mount connected to the the window sliding rail through a
knob. In the second part of the video the footage is provided by
mounting a photolens of 75 mm with it's aperture aligned to the
LM X axis + 1 degree and usually used to film the outdoor CM
manouvers and alignments.In this second part of the footage the
trajectory is not coherent to the previous trajectory nor to the
subtitles. I think the second part has been inverted and the
subtitles followed the inverted images providing the right
coordinates but in the opposite sequence. The video must be seen
reverted from the bottom to the cockpit and the subtitles
indications must be reverted too leaving the coordinates data
unchanged. That's my idea.
Now, I thought it all ended here, but after this interview,
Scantamburlo was contacted by Bill Ryan, then working for
Project Camelot, together with Kerry Lynn Cassidy. Bill told him
that many people thought that the Apollo 20 information was a
hoax, but on the other hand, Bill had found a thread on one of
the top conspiracy forums,
Secret (ATS), which was started in
April 2008, and seemed to be related to this whole story. So
Scantamburlo checked it out, and apparently the thread was
started by a son of a former NRO employee, where NRO stands for
“National Reconnaissance Office”, a very important Intelligence Agency,
which was declassified in 1992.
Anyway, seemingly unrelated to
Scantamburlo’s Apollo 20 story, this whistle-blower was saying
that his father was involved in a black operation back in 1976
(same year as Apollo 20) at the Vandenberg AFB (Air force base; same location), with the same goal, which was to investigate a
lunar singularity, confirmed in 1973 (just like the Mona Lisa
spacecraft was filmed and photographed in 1973). It was in fact
a derelict spacecraft, according to this whistle-blower.
Then Scantamburlo lists the main points
the whistle-blower mentions regarding his father’s mission:
1. He did not mention anything about
"Apollo 20" and never even gave a formal name. In addition,
there were no markings on the rocket or spacecraft. This
operation was entirely off the books. No one on the operation
used their real names, that's how far it went.
2. Mission Control was located at
Vandenburg AFB. The actual launch was on the island of Diego
Garcia. This island was located in the Indian Ocean along the
equator with virtually nothing around it. This site was chosen
because if launched to the East, the rocket would have nearly
12,000 miles of unbroken water to help cover the tracks. It was
accepted people would see the launch wherever it was, this site
would limit that.
3. The project was initiated, by Nixon's
orders, in late 1971. My father's work began on the project
began in 1974. The actual mission took place in 1976. My father
said that he underwent an intensive psychological exam before he
was selected to join the program. He said he thought he was
bought in mainly because he "could be trusted".
4. The actual mission consisted of 3
American astronauts whose names he would not mention. He said
that these men had been trained for nearly 4 years specifically
for this mission. He also said that in 1973 it was confirmed the
object was in fact a derelict spacecraft. He reviewed this
pictures personally when selected for the project.
5. The spacecraft was speculated to be
roughly 1.5 million years old, although he was not allowed
access to that exact information. The ship was badly decayed
from meteor impacts and the ancient crash. The ship was cigar
shaped, and massive, the section was roughly 1 mile. Evidence
suggested it been explored before us. No alien remains were
found. 300kg of artifacts were stripped and brought back. My
father described what he called "strange hieroglyphs and
markings" covering what was assumed to be the the "cockpit" of
6. At least 2
other governments were involved with the project. My father said
he worked with a British analyst and he knew of a smaller team
in Australia but wasn't sure the Australian government were
exactly aware of what our men were doing.
Reporter Luca Scantamburlo was quite
stunned because this whistle-blower (WB), although never
mentioning Apollo 20 directly, in his thread had exposed
something Rutledge had told Scantamburlo in private
emails, but Scantamburlo didn’t publish it at the time. Now
someone else obviously had!
For example, WB
said that there were no markings whatsoever on the rocket or
spaceship, which launched from Vandenberg AFB in California. In
fact, according to Scantamburlo, Rutledge had told him on June
6, 2007, that “On the lift off sequence, the saturn 5 has no
markings till the third stage. […] In vandenberg, the saturn V
launch had to be not reconizable, no BW lines or USA marks on
the rocket. Only the last ring was black painted, and it could
look like an ordinary Delta rocket at 4 miles distance.”
There were more example of revelations
by WB, which Scantamburlo had not revealed in public. I have a
feeling that this is not the end of this story.
I find this information quite
interesting, although it’s not without flaws and suspicions. If
we look at the whole story I’ve just told you, including all
whistle-blowers, it may look like they are separate from each
other, but revealing the same information.
If this would be so, we would have
something next to a solid case. What gets to me, however, are a
few things, and I’m not going to mention the small things, which
I find could be irrelevant, and don’t prove anything, either
First of all, who says that all these
whistle-blowers are unrelated, even in the sense that they may
know each other, but don’t know what the other one has revealed?
Couldn’t it be that they in fact are all working for the
Intelligence Community, and they are just putting out some
disinformation, pretending to be unrelated?
For example, let’s say that Rutledge
gives Scantamburlo information that he wants the reporter to
keep to himself for the moment. Shortly after, Moonwalker
reveals the same information Rutledge has asked Scantamburlo to
keep secret in order to convince skeptics that this is a true
story. Instead, they all know of each other’s conversations,
because they are working together, and are just putting on a
show. That’s one possibility.
What first got me interested in this
story was the deep knowledge the witnesses have regarding how
NASA works, and all the technical details they reveal, which can
only come from highly trained engineers, or even rocket
engineers, or perhaps NASA space pilots. There is more technical
information if you read Scantamburlo’s whole story from
beginning to end—I didn’t include it all in this version.
This could mean a few things. Firstly,
it could mean that the witnesses are genuine—that they are who
they say they are. Secondly, they could be genuine, but under
mind control to reveal exactly what the Global Elite want them
to reveal. Thirdly, these people could be highly trained Intel
personnel, put in position to give us a cover story—something
for UFOlogists to set their teeth in and be distracted and
confused by. It could even be that most of the story is true,
and that the MIC deliberately told us what happened, as close to
the truth as possible without revealing the most secret aspects
of the story.
Now to the last major thing that hit me when I read through
Scantamburlo’s material. We should be able to establish at least
one thing as true, and that is that American astronauts are
highly educated people, and they all have an IQ well above the
average person. So, I am going to ask the question that should
be obvious, but which I haven’t seen anybody ask so far: if
Rutledge and Moonwalker truly are American astronauts, why is
their English so bad and sloppy? First of all, astronauts are
never to be
sloppy—their job is a matter of life and death, and the tiniest
sloppiness may result in the death of the whole crew or severely
jeopardize the whole mission. It’s highly unlikely that they
would be this sloppy, even in emails.
Moreover, Rutledge gives the impression
of using English as his second language. He is aware of this,
and blames it on that he is now living in Rwanda and is not
using English as his everyday language. Personally, I think
that’s a lame excuse, because English is my second language, and
I never use Swedish (my first language) in my everyday life,
either, and haven’t done in a very long time. Although, I have a
tendency to forget which preposition falls after a certain word,
and there are certain words and terms I sometimes have
difficulties remembering, it’s not nearly as bad as it sometimes
is in Rutledge’s case. However, I’m going to grant him his
explanation and leave it with that, but then we have Moonwalker,
which is an even more obvious case, I think. He has no excuse
for using bad English, because he still resided in the U.S. when
he communicated with Scantamburlo. The latter says on his
website that he can see clearly that Moonwalker is American,
because his English is very good, but I disagree. Scantamburlo
is Italian, and he may have some difficulties seeing spelling
and grammar errors in Moonwalker’s writing because his own
English writing isn’t perfect, either. However, Moonwalker’s
errors are there, and some of them are errors no educated
American would make. There is little doubt that Moonwalker is
educated, but perhaps not in the United States.
Then we have the claims that Apollo 19
and 20 were joint missions—a number of nations were involved in
the projects. This may explain why their English is bad, but if
so, why lie about it? Obviously, Rutledge and Moonwalker are in
that case not whom they say they are.
So, what do we make out of all these
pros and cons regarding this story? Have we now debunked it and
can leave it behind us as a pile of disinformation? Perhaps, but
personally I’m not so sure about that. There is something in
this story that still rings quite true. I do still believe that
they found the ships on the moon, although I would still like to
see the photos of the triangular ships. I will contact
Scantamburlo and ask him to send them to me. If I use a NASA
software, I may see them as clearly as Scantamburlo and
Moonwalker allegedly did, and I have no reason at all not to
trust Scantamburlo. He comes across as an honest reporter.
Figure 13. Italian freelance reporter
from Venice, Luca Scantamburlo, born in 1974, and working for
the Italian magazines, Tecnologia & Difesa and UFO Notiziario.
This photo is from 2006.
Stories like this are always complicated—particularly when it
looks like the whistle-blowers are making obvious mistakes, or
there are obvious inconsistencies in them. An untrained
researcher would in these cases discard the material and
stamping it “DISINFORMATION!” and leave it with that. The
trained researchers, however, gets very suspicious when they see
obvious mistakes in the material. To
them it means that the mistakes were done on purpose for some
reason, and the material is therefore worth looking into a
little extra. There may be an underlying, subtle message which
is not obvious at first, and which only a trained eye can see. I
think that’s the case with the Apollo 20 story.
Does this mean that the Apollo 19 and 20
Missions actually took place, then? Yes, that is my impression.
I have the feeling that Apollo 15 (or some other, more secret
mission, perhaps) saw some anomalies on the dark side of the
moon which they filmed and photographed. After all, “The City”
is real—I’m pretty confident with that, so why not the shots of
the spacecraft? They are there on the films—we can’t deny that.
Are they photoshopped? There is always a chance, but it sure
doesn’t look like it.
What about Mona Lisa? Did they actually
find hers, and another alien’s body in the mothership? Perhaps.
It looks like the astronaut, who supposedly is Rutledge, is
doing a first investigation on her, which is another thing I
found strange. If they really found this alien body on the moon,
fully intact (and some say she was not alive and not dead, which
means she must have been in incubation), allegedly after 1.5
billion years (which is an awful long time), why would an
astronaut have permission to do anything at all with her? One
would think that they got orders not to touch the body at all
and maybe transport it home to Earth as intact and “alive” as
possible. However, that’s just my own opinion—they could have
other orders, and Rutledge could also have been medically
trained, I don’t know.
If I should trust Dr. A.R. Bordon of
LPG-C, he recognizes Mona Lisa as an ancient “Mongolian” race,
which is allegedly sometimes present in the annual meetings Dr.
Bordon and his team have with many different alien species, to
discuss our own human future in relation to these alien
civilizations, whose representatives meet annually, on or off
planet. When I asked Dr. Bordon about more details about the
“Mongolians”, he told me he doesn’t know much about them. If my
memory serves me right, I think he said that they were only
“observers”, which means they were not in a position to take
an active stand in those meetings. Also, they may only have
showed up once or twice during meetings that have been regular
for the last 10-15 years or so.
Then, of course, another question comes
to mind, if we are to believe Dr. Bordon: if this race is
billions of years old, hasn’t it changed at all over this
enormous amount of time? Hasn’t the race evolved?
This makes me think that either Dr.
Bordon’s Mongolians and the being found on the moon are not the
same race, or the dating technology used on Mona Lisa gives
inaccurate results. For now, I want to disregard Bordon’s
information, not because it’s necessarily incorrect, but I’d
rather concentrate on the actual finding of the body.
As I said a few paragraphs ago, stories
like this, if released by the government on purpose, will
include disinformation, but also clues so that the truth can
actually be found if the truth-seeker is spending time and is
really looking. For example, why did the witnesses have to say
that the body was 1.5 billion years old, and potentially still
alive? This sounds like a piece of disinformation in the middle
of something quite accurate. I think this body, if it’s actually
real, is much younger than 1.5 billion years—it sounds much more
plausible that it could be a million or so years old at the
most. Aliens, who are visiting our solar system, sometimes use
many different bodies, which they “jump” between. This means
that they have bodies in storage on-planet and off-planet which
they can use when they need to. Depending on which kind of
species they are, they most likely cannot just land here on
Earth and survive in our atmosphere. The solution, more often
than not, is to create clones and hybrids (if they know how to
genetically engineer or manipulate a race) which are almost
exact copies of the species which is natural to the planet—in
this case humans. Therefore, we can see alien souls in human,
hybrid bodies walking around among us, and we don’t even know
they’re not human.
Mona Lisa could have been a body put in
incubation to be used later. After all, she was attached to the
spaceship through her nostrils, potentially signifying that the
body may have gotten some nutrition that way. What happened when
they disconnected it, we can only guess. It could actually have
killed her after a while.
If the footage we’re shown from the
spaceship, with Mona Lisa lying flat on her back is real, it
could mean that this Mongolian body was already adapt to
the Earth’s atmosphere. She looks quite human, but still not.
She could very well be an old hybrid, ready to use.
Notesand References(hit the back button on your browser to go back from where you
came after have read the note):
 "psychological operation",
normally done by different Intelligence Agencies and the
Military Industrial Complex with the purpose to spread
disinformation or debunk someone who is getting to close
to the truth.
 The term “milliard” is a European,
and perhaps Russian, term, which is the same as the
English and American term “billion”. It is unclear why
Rutledge is using European linguistics when he allegedly
is American. Perhaps after have spent a lot of time
amongst Soviet/Russian cosmonauts?
 Yes, there were more than one
ship. Besides the giant “ark”, there were also two green
triangular smaller craft, which Rutledge mentioned in
passing in the earlier interview, if you go back some
through this chapter.